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by Kattack06
26 Comments
OUTheMovie
> my community is gone. Vanished. We had the full spectrum of players in our group: hardcore raid grinders, casual players wanting a Community Day shiny, tourists looking to explore the local Gyms, people playing from their bikes or crawling alongside the walking party in their cars (I’ll never understand that one), main series players, mobile-only aficionados, young kids dragging their parents along, young parents dragging their kids along, the lot.
What a great summary of how the game has gone to shit for the community
twonaantom
Yesterday was the first day in almost 7 years I haven’t opened the app. It’s so sad to see this game going the way it is.
KosherPeen
This times a million. All my chats are dead, it’s not even worth inviting people to raids I’m physically at anymore
statebirdsnest
It was great while it all lasted.
Mirage_Main
I always like it when in times like this, the bootlickers come out in full force to defend a corporation. But, when the change is reverted, all of them drop off the face of the earth.
Arrowmatic
Well, that was bleak. I am definitely seeing some of what the writer of the article has in terms of less engagement in my community. Not quite as dire, but still a noticeable dropoff. Ironically I feel like it was just starting to grow again after Covid, plenty of young kids getting into the game with their parents and other newer players around. Then Niantic’s remote raid pass shenanigans really just pissed everyone off and a large swathe of people disappeared. There’s still a core there but smaller, and everyone seems less engaged in general.
SunKing210
I remember last year going to a park nearby with some friends and cousins and we were doing some raids. A very nice gal came over and asked if I was doing any raids and if she could join us. We became friends and raided a lot together.
Fast forward to today, neither her or any of those same cousins and friends have played in quite some time. They all just dropped the game and never looked back 🙁
Sevilane
I definitely recommend listening to Count Jinsula on YouTube. He has been my go-to listen when it comes to Niantic and how they can improve things in Poke go. Here’s still hoping it gets better when they actually listen.
HayKd
Niantic really does the worst possible job when it comes to incentivizing.
Want me to go out and play? Ok give me something thats not a route 1 shiny locked pokemon.
Want me to raid in person? Make the rewards actually worth it and allow me to invite people for help.
Want me to hatch a bunch of your eggs? Halve the hatch distance via bonus and give me free incubators to do so.
there are so many, TOO many ways they could get us out but nope they refuse to evolve the game and instead just go backwards and remove features that just make the game more accessible for everyone overall
Arennella
I’ve reinstalled the game few days ago just to check my friends. Out of 50 in game friends only 4 has been recently online… the game is dead 💀
YodaisTHICCaf
It’s honestly ridiculous. They’re just teasing us by rubbing the mega and legendary raids in our face at this point. There is literally no-one showing up for these legendary/mega raids at all anymore. I haven’t seen a single raid group since the update, and I now cannot get legendaries at all. Nice job Niantic…
dij123
It’s actually crazy because my chat went completely dead after the new updates and seeing it happen to so many people makes me just feel sad
Dentuam
when im reading the article, i had tears in my eyes. i cant believe that niantic kill OUR Game!
Communication and Responses from Niantic are extremly rare. in 2022 it was better compare to 2023. but now niantic is completly disconnected from the community.
i hope TPC step in and kicks in niantics a**.
BrazzersSub
At this point I’d rather they just come out and say they’re cutting support for the game. Even if bad, it would still be communication (which is something they’ve starved us of), and at least then I could have some closure about the direction they are wanting to take the game.
Bacteriophag
> If Niantic was set on increasing the prices of remote raids, which it clearly was, it needed to give something back to the players who have been loyal for seven years.
Niantic: “And so we did, giving you the chance to hatch Larvesta! Incubator sales show it was very popular amongst our loyal playerbase!”
Froggo14
They have actually nerfed raid rewards. Im getting less revives and hyper potions fro legendary raids. Used to be in bundles of 3 now they are in bundles fo 2. Niantic are a spiteful and vindictive company.
PM_ME_YOUR_SOULZ
This is all on Niantic. Even if they try and blame other things, it’s all on them.
stoki33
The problem isn’t the raid pass price rise
The problem is they’ve made the same mistakes they made with Harry Potter, the game is now too busy to play while walking along. Its too much of a time sink.
But on top of that they nerfed incense so i have to walk to play I can’t sit in a coffee shop
If I open the game now i’ve got to open a balloon advert, then battle a rocket balloon just to make them go away
I’m then met with a wall of time gated events which aren’t really events, they’re just inventory dumps.
theres no cooldown between events so you feel like you HAVE to play even if you dont really want to.
most of the bigger events are paid tickets now which no one was happy with anyway
half the costume pokemon are just re-runs of previous years
I then have to keep my phone out at all times to try and spot kekleon stops
if I want to do a 1 star raid I have to stand and wait for the lobby to time out
Timpaj
It was a fun run
MrTigeriffic
100% agree with the incentive for players to go out and play the game is gone. Instead just increase the price for couch players and alienate disabled players.
Also I’m sure it has been mentioned before but it seems that the GPS/phone data is valuable to Niantic and they’ve lost that too.
Whether in game purchases or selling of data earns more is unclear.
What is clear is that they have lost both.
xlkey
Dear Niantic,
Noone gives a f*ck about Monster Hunter GO. Pokemon GO is only succesful due to first part – “Pokemon”.
Kind regards,
Pokemon GO Community
smda31
My theory: Whatever revenue sharing agreement there is between Niantic and TPC clearly just isn’t worth Niantic’s time anymore. If Niantic sends most of the microtransaction profit to TPC but gets to keep most of profit from selling location data, then their actions to make remote raiding and egg hatching miserable make much more sense. And seeing as this is a minor side hustle for TPC, I doubt they care that much if Niantic run the game to the ground or not.
Id guess once figures come out that show sustained loss in revenue, Niantic gets bought out, the execs making these decisions get a great pay day, the developers who probably share our concerns get laid off, and the game dies.
lunk
One thing about it is that they’ve essentially TRIPLED the cost of items (barring the recent make-up boxes), and that goes for the every-weekend $14.99 events.
So they could lose 2/3 of their playerbase (I personally believe they’ve lost at least 1/2 right now), and they’ll still make just as much money.
I think they are preparing for the endgame, where they have 500,000 paying players who never quit, and just don’t care if the game is any good, or if the prices are crazy. THAT is utopia for Niantic.
OraceonArrives
I miss 2016 when everybody, even people who were never Pokemon people were playing the game. Its nostalgic thinking about a group of 100 strangers running across a park because a Dragonite spawned. Niantic forgets the community is the game, and without a community, you have no game. L Niantic.
sekoku
> Niantic has refuted reports of low revenue this month
Of course they are. What are they going to say? “Yeah, our game is in decline!” That’d kill with investors.
Bigduck73
Best concept there’s ever been for a game. Colossally mismanaged and squandered.
26 Comments
> my community is gone. Vanished. We had the full spectrum of players in our group: hardcore raid grinders, casual players wanting a Community Day shiny, tourists looking to explore the local Gyms, people playing from their bikes or crawling alongside the walking party in their cars (I’ll never understand that one), main series players, mobile-only aficionados, young kids dragging their parents along, young parents dragging their kids along, the lot.
What a great summary of how the game has gone to shit for the community
Yesterday was the first day in almost 7 years I haven’t opened the app. It’s so sad to see this game going the way it is.
This times a million. All my chats are dead, it’s not even worth inviting people to raids I’m physically at anymore
It was great while it all lasted.
I always like it when in times like this, the bootlickers come out in full force to defend a corporation. But, when the change is reverted, all of them drop off the face of the earth.
Well, that was bleak. I am definitely seeing some of what the writer of the article has in terms of less engagement in my community. Not quite as dire, but still a noticeable dropoff. Ironically I feel like it was just starting to grow again after Covid, plenty of young kids getting into the game with their parents and other newer players around. Then Niantic’s remote raid pass shenanigans really just pissed everyone off and a large swathe of people disappeared. There’s still a core there but smaller, and everyone seems less engaged in general.
I remember last year going to a park nearby with some friends and cousins and we were doing some raids. A very nice gal came over and asked if I was doing any raids and if she could join us. We became friends and raided a lot together.
Fast forward to today, neither her or any of those same cousins and friends have played in quite some time. They all just dropped the game and never looked back 🙁
I definitely recommend listening to Count Jinsula on YouTube. He has been my go-to listen when it comes to Niantic and how they can improve things in Poke go. Here’s still hoping it gets better when they actually listen.
Niantic really does the worst possible job when it comes to incentivizing.
Want me to go out and play? Ok give me something thats not a route 1 shiny locked pokemon.
Want me to raid in person? Make the rewards actually worth it and allow me to invite people for help.
Want me to hatch a bunch of your eggs? Halve the hatch distance via bonus and give me free incubators to do so.
there are so many, TOO many ways they could get us out but nope they refuse to evolve the game and instead just go backwards and remove features that just make the game more accessible for everyone overall
I’ve reinstalled the game few days ago just to check my friends. Out of 50 in game friends only 4 has been recently online… the game is dead 💀
It’s honestly ridiculous. They’re just teasing us by rubbing the mega and legendary raids in our face at this point. There is literally no-one showing up for these legendary/mega raids at all anymore. I haven’t seen a single raid group since the update, and I now cannot get legendaries at all. Nice job Niantic…
It’s actually crazy because my chat went completely dead after the new updates and seeing it happen to so many people makes me just feel sad
when im reading the article, i had tears in my eyes. i cant believe that niantic kill OUR Game!
Communication and Responses from Niantic are extremly rare. in 2022 it was better compare to 2023. but now niantic is completly disconnected from the community.
i hope TPC step in and kicks in niantics a**.
At this point I’d rather they just come out and say they’re cutting support for the game. Even if bad, it would still be communication (which is something they’ve starved us of), and at least then I could have some closure about the direction they are wanting to take the game.
> If Niantic was set on increasing the prices of remote raids, which it clearly was, it needed to give something back to the players who have been loyal for seven years.
Niantic: “And so we did, giving you the chance to hatch Larvesta! Incubator sales show it was very popular amongst our loyal playerbase!”
They have actually nerfed raid rewards. Im getting less revives and hyper potions fro legendary raids. Used to be in bundles of 3 now they are in bundles fo 2. Niantic are a spiteful and vindictive company.
This is all on Niantic. Even if they try and blame other things, it’s all on them.
The problem isn’t the raid pass price rise
The problem is they’ve made the same mistakes they made with Harry Potter, the game is now too busy to play while walking along. Its too much of a time sink.
But on top of that they nerfed incense so i have to walk to play I can’t sit in a coffee shop
If I open the game now i’ve got to open a balloon advert, then battle a rocket balloon just to make them go away
I’m then met with a wall of time gated events which aren’t really events, they’re just inventory dumps.
theres no cooldown between events so you feel like you HAVE to play even if you dont really want to.
most of the bigger events are paid tickets now which no one was happy with anyway
half the costume pokemon are just re-runs of previous years
I then have to keep my phone out at all times to try and spot kekleon stops
if I want to do a 1 star raid I have to stand and wait for the lobby to time out
It was a fun run
100% agree with the incentive for players to go out and play the game is gone. Instead just increase the price for couch players and alienate disabled players.
Also I’m sure it has been mentioned before but it seems that the GPS/phone data is valuable to Niantic and they’ve lost that too.
Whether in game purchases or selling of data earns more is unclear.
What is clear is that they have lost both.
Dear Niantic,
Noone gives a f*ck about Monster Hunter GO. Pokemon GO is only succesful due to first part – “Pokemon”.
Kind regards,
Pokemon GO Community
My theory: Whatever revenue sharing agreement there is between Niantic and TPC clearly just isn’t worth Niantic’s time anymore. If Niantic sends most of the microtransaction profit to TPC but gets to keep most of profit from selling location data, then their actions to make remote raiding and egg hatching miserable make much more sense. And seeing as this is a minor side hustle for TPC, I doubt they care that much if Niantic run the game to the ground or not.
Id guess once figures come out that show sustained loss in revenue, Niantic gets bought out, the execs making these decisions get a great pay day, the developers who probably share our concerns get laid off, and the game dies.
One thing about it is that they’ve essentially TRIPLED the cost of items (barring the recent make-up boxes), and that goes for the every-weekend $14.99 events.
So they could lose 2/3 of their playerbase (I personally believe they’ve lost at least 1/2 right now), and they’ll still make just as much money.
I think they are preparing for the endgame, where they have 500,000 paying players who never quit, and just don’t care if the game is any good, or if the prices are crazy. THAT is utopia for Niantic.
I miss 2016 when everybody, even people who were never Pokemon people were playing the game. Its nostalgic thinking about a group of 100 strangers running across a park because a Dragonite spawned. Niantic forgets the community is the game, and without a community, you have no game. L Niantic.
> Niantic has refuted reports of low revenue this month
Of course they are. What are they going to say? “Yeah, our game is in decline!” That’d kill with investors.
Best concept there’s ever been for a game. Colossally mismanaged and squandered.