Two staff on the Drag X Drive booth mentioned they’d been told to refer to these as “vehicles” and not wheelchairs.
Two staff on the Drag X Drive booth mentioned they’d been told to refer to these as “vehicles” and not wheelchairs.
by Turbostrider27
50 Comments
coolthulu42
If it looks like a wheel chair and operates like a wheelchair…
FlowKom
they are wheelchairs. what are they talking about?
maybe design them as something that is not literally a wheelchair.
I_Race_Pats
Some marketing exec is so afraid of offending someone that he’s being offensive.
Spaceolympian50
lol. They’re wheelchairs. Sorry Nintendo.
umotex12
this shit is cool, almost rocket league worthy concept that will be dead in half of a year because of lack of any support
or someone will make a clone for joycons on PC and people will play it obsessively like osu and rocket
brokenmessiah
Weird, they very obviously made a game with wheelchair bound people in mind, I think its counter productive to refrain from using the term wheelchair like its a slur.
DBones90
It feels gross because it definitely feels like they don’t want the implication to be that you’re playing a disabled person.
I know people will say that this is because they don’t want to offend wheelchair users, but I feel like the more likely scenario is that they don’t want to be labeled as a woke or a disabled game.
InsertScreenNameHere
Is it a chair with wheels?
Jumpyer
Well, a wheelchair is a vehicle so
ComeAlongWithTheSnor
Everyone thought the ARMs follow up would be LEGs but nobody was prepared for ~~WHEELs~~ VEHICLEs.
gizmo998
When I saw this game I couldn’t work out if it was offensive or not to the disability community? And I’m not easily offended at all.
MyMouthisCancerous
Inclusivity through neutral language that indirectly promotes exclusion
Baby steps Nintendo (of America).
BactaBobomb
Benefit of the doubt, maybe the intention was to be “Respectful” and not point attention to it being a device for handicapped individuals. But not to exclude that community, rather a really misguided attempt to not offend them?
I’m not sure. But either way I really don’t like that. I was actually really happy to see a game with wheelchairs as a primary feature. It’s something I never thought about until then, but I think the number of games with that criterion could be counted on a single pair of hands, if that. I think this sort of representation and prime focus for a huge company like Nintendo could only be a good thing.
I wish it were in a game that didn’t look like a completely barebones and lifeless experience, though. I don’t have faith that this game will take off. But maybe that exposure will inspire other developers to try their hand at making something compelling with wheelchairs!
Ramen536Pie
This is probably the most bizarrely designed and marketed game I’ve ever seen
It’s cheap rocket league with wheelchairs but they refuse to call them wheelchairs
CheesyCousCous
This looks so bad lmao
LongSchlong93
Nintendo turned Perfect World manga into a game
TxLonghorn1012
I’m in a wheelchair, can confirm those are wheelchairs
PinkSquidz
This is the Arms sequel we deserve. Legs.
Stxrri
I feel it would be more offensive not to call it a wheelchair, like it’s okay to call things a wheelchair that are in fact a wheelchair
wolffangz11
I’m sure the word “wheelchair” came up during key points in development numerous times. I wouldn’t be surprised if they were referred to as wheelchairs internally.
MossyMak
Ahh yes, the classic move of “don’t ask the people this affects what they want”. Works every time.
Free_Accident7836
I think they should embrace the thing that everyone will immediately assume theyre inspired by
cory3612
I thought it was a positive thing they were supposed to be wheel chairs, it’s actually worse that they are saying they are not wheel chairs lol
Joshithusiast
It’s literally a wheelchair basketball simulator. That’s an actual sport played by actual athletes. Acknowledging that those people exist is not offensive. Turning them into robots with pointless legs to avoid the conversation is.
Engaging in erasure to try to avoid uncomfortable topics just further marginalizes marginalized peoples.
Odd_Insurance8400
Why on earth would a robot in a wheelchair offend someone
Possible-Emu-2913
Why? Do they think wheelchair users get offended by this? Bet they’ve never spoken to a person in a wheelchair.
Moglet91
Oh well that’s a shame because when I saw it I thought ‘wow this is a bit bizarre but cool to see some representation! I’m sure wheelchair users think it’s neat’ lol. Now it seems they’re being offensive by trying not to be offensive.
BigOrkWaaagh
My question is why would you make a robot with legs and then put it in a wheelchair?
Rozwellish
If the first thing your execs think of when they need an idea to market a game for your new mouse-controlled joycon gimmick is ‘people pushing their wheelchair’ then just call it a wheelchair.
It’s cool that there’s a game where being in a wheelchair is a core function.
PicklesAnonymous
Brother, it’s a wheelchair.
Honestly I thought this game was going to be developed in relationship with an adaptive sports organization. There’s nothing wrong with that but it’s just funny to say it’s not a wheelchair when it’s pretty much a 1:1 model of a paraplegic sports player.
Playful_Ad_2911
Full time wheelchair user here, I got excited because I saw wheelchairs, so that’s what they are
Bobertus
I didn’t think it was a wheelchair. I actually thought it’s just one single robot that’s made to look like a human in a wheel chair. But then it wouldn’t be a vehicle either.
Really, I can’t see how this would be successful. It looks like it should have been DLC for Wii sports.
CaughtNABargain
Play basketball with the new vehicle
bloo_overbeck
Oh that’s weird. They’re wheelchairs. Call them wheelchairs
Schminimal
Why make a game based on wheelchairs to then tip toe around calling them wheelchairs?
If you don’t want your product to have wheelchairs in it then don’t make it.
RJE808
…Nintendo, they’re wheelchairs lol
The_Invisible_Hand98
Theyd get browny points for calling them wheelchairs, they should have called them that
Lola_PopBBae
I would’ve been down to clown for ARMS2, with all it’s vibrant colors, cool lore, diverse cast, and so much more- but instead we get…this.
It just strikes me as weirdly tonedeaf and extremely bland, particularly considering what we’ve gotten before.
iamnotkurtcobain
That’s just stupid af
mysecondaccountanon
As a disabled person, Nintendo is kinda known for not having good disability representation or good accessibility options for their games, unfortunately.
mint-patty
“This is a game built from the ground up to highlight the ability of an overlooked group, our Special Olympic challengers! Oh, but don’t worry, you don’t have to play as some cripple!”
what? What a bizarre direction to take
Mugsy_Siegel
This game will flop so hard it doesn’t matter what it’s called
jbuggydroid
This game is gonna crash
Spriggz_z7z
How sad lol
SirDanOfCamelot
Lmao whoever thought this game was a good idea should be canned
SliderGamer55
“It’s not possession in Mario Odyssey, its capturing.” is what immediately came to mind.
NoBullet
im more appalled at the depressing arena thats pure grey concrete and cage like dome. looks like theyre playing in a prison
Have_A_Jelly_Baby
Maybe they shouldn’t have made the characters be in wheelchairs then.
CerebralHawks
It was pretty clear during the direct that Nintendo was explicitly avoiding the term “wheelchair.”
I don’t get it. It’s not more inclusive to call them something else. It’s not *less* inclusive to call them wheelchairs. That is literally what they are.
Now, I have a separate issue. When I was a teenager, I thought wheelchairs were cool. I was a cyclist, so I got great lower body exercise by biking everywhere. My dream was to also own a wheelchair and use it just as much. Well, apparently despite being roughly the same thing, they cost a lot more — because they’re meant to be billed to insurance. So while, back then, you could get a decent starter mountain bike for about $150, a wheelchair started at like $500, and that was for a crappy hospital type one. Like I wanted a black one with a carbon fiber look, green accents, like sporty? Yeah I get it’s somewhat disrespectful to handicapped people to use them recreationally, but at the same time, wouldn’t it reduce the stigma if more people used them casually?
So yeah, I love the idea behind this game. Not sure if it’s something I actually want to play on my Switch though.
MaruSoto
The kanji for wheelchair is “vehicle” and “chair”. Other examples using the kanji are: electric train “electric vehicle”, steam train “steam vehicle”, rikshaw “human power vehicle”, car “self moving vehicle”, and bicycle “self spinning vehicle”.
Is it that weird to call a wheelchair a “vehicle” in English? It’s certainly not the least bit inaccurate.
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If it looks like a wheel chair and operates like a wheelchair…
they are wheelchairs. what are they talking about?
maybe design them as something that is not literally a wheelchair.
Some marketing exec is so afraid of offending someone that he’s being offensive.
lol. They’re wheelchairs. Sorry Nintendo.
this shit is cool, almost rocket league worthy concept that will be dead in half of a year because of lack of any support
or someone will make a clone for joycons on PC and people will play it obsessively like osu and rocket
Weird, they very obviously made a game with wheelchair bound people in mind, I think its counter productive to refrain from using the term wheelchair like its a slur.
It feels gross because it definitely feels like they don’t want the implication to be that you’re playing a disabled person.
I know people will say that this is because they don’t want to offend wheelchair users, but I feel like the more likely scenario is that they don’t want to be labeled as a woke or a disabled game.
Is it a chair with wheels?
Well, a wheelchair is a vehicle so
Everyone thought the ARMs follow up would be LEGs but nobody was prepared for ~~WHEELs~~ VEHICLEs.
When I saw this game I couldn’t work out if it was offensive or not to the disability community? And I’m not easily offended at all.
Inclusivity through neutral language that indirectly promotes exclusion
Baby steps Nintendo (of America).
Benefit of the doubt, maybe the intention was to be “Respectful” and not point attention to it being a device for handicapped individuals. But not to exclude that community, rather a really misguided attempt to not offend them?
I’m not sure. But either way I really don’t like that. I was actually really happy to see a game with wheelchairs as a primary feature. It’s something I never thought about until then, but I think the number of games with that criterion could be counted on a single pair of hands, if that. I think this sort of representation and prime focus for a huge company like Nintendo could only be a good thing.
I wish it were in a game that didn’t look like a completely barebones and lifeless experience, though. I don’t have faith that this game will take off. But maybe that exposure will inspire other developers to try their hand at making something compelling with wheelchairs!
This is probably the most bizarrely designed and marketed game I’ve ever seen
It’s cheap rocket league with wheelchairs but they refuse to call them wheelchairs
This looks so bad lmao
Nintendo turned Perfect World manga into a game
I’m in a wheelchair, can confirm those are wheelchairs
This is the Arms sequel we deserve. Legs.
I feel it would be more offensive not to call it a wheelchair, like it’s okay to call things a wheelchair that are in fact a wheelchair
I’m sure the word “wheelchair” came up during key points in development numerous times. I wouldn’t be surprised if they were referred to as wheelchairs internally.
Ahh yes, the classic move of “don’t ask the people this affects what they want”. Works every time.
I think they should embrace the thing that everyone will immediately assume theyre inspired by
I thought it was a positive thing they were supposed to be wheel chairs, it’s actually worse that they are saying they are not wheel chairs lol
It’s literally a wheelchair basketball simulator. That’s an actual sport played by actual athletes. Acknowledging that those people exist is not offensive. Turning them into robots with pointless legs to avoid the conversation is.
Engaging in erasure to try to avoid uncomfortable topics just further marginalizes marginalized peoples.
Why on earth would a robot in a wheelchair offend someone
Why? Do they think wheelchair users get offended by this? Bet they’ve never spoken to a person in a wheelchair.
Oh well that’s a shame because when I saw it I thought ‘wow this is a bit bizarre but cool to see some representation! I’m sure wheelchair users think it’s neat’ lol. Now it seems they’re being offensive by trying not to be offensive.
My question is why would you make a robot with legs and then put it in a wheelchair?
If the first thing your execs think of when they need an idea to market a game for your new mouse-controlled joycon gimmick is ‘people pushing their wheelchair’ then just call it a wheelchair.
It’s cool that there’s a game where being in a wheelchair is a core function.
Brother, it’s a wheelchair.
Honestly I thought this game was going to be developed in relationship with an adaptive sports organization. There’s nothing wrong with that but it’s just funny to say it’s not a wheelchair when it’s pretty much a 1:1 model of a paraplegic sports player.
Full time wheelchair user here, I got excited because I saw wheelchairs, so that’s what they are
I didn’t think it was a wheelchair. I actually thought it’s just one single robot that’s made to look like a human in a wheel chair. But then it wouldn’t be a vehicle either.
Really, I can’t see how this would be successful. It looks like it should have been DLC for Wii sports.
Play basketball with the new vehicle
Oh that’s weird. They’re wheelchairs. Call them wheelchairs
Why make a game based on wheelchairs to then tip toe around calling them wheelchairs?
If you don’t want your product to have wheelchairs in it then don’t make it.
…Nintendo, they’re wheelchairs lol
Theyd get browny points for calling them wheelchairs, they should have called them that
I would’ve been down to clown for ARMS2, with all it’s vibrant colors, cool lore, diverse cast, and so much more- but instead we get…this.
It just strikes me as weirdly tonedeaf and extremely bland, particularly considering what we’ve gotten before.
That’s just stupid af
As a disabled person, Nintendo is kinda known for not having good disability representation or good accessibility options for their games, unfortunately.
“This is a game built from the ground up to highlight the ability of an overlooked group, our Special Olympic challengers! Oh, but don’t worry, you don’t have to play as some cripple!”
what? What a bizarre direction to take
This game will flop so hard it doesn’t matter what it’s called
This game is gonna crash
How sad lol
Lmao whoever thought this game was a good idea should be canned
“It’s not possession in Mario Odyssey, its capturing.” is what immediately came to mind.
im more appalled at the depressing arena thats pure grey concrete and cage like dome. looks like theyre playing in a prison
Maybe they shouldn’t have made the characters be in wheelchairs then.
It was pretty clear during the direct that Nintendo was explicitly avoiding the term “wheelchair.”
I don’t get it. It’s not more inclusive to call them something else. It’s not *less* inclusive to call them wheelchairs. That is literally what they are.
Now, I have a separate issue. When I was a teenager, I thought wheelchairs were cool. I was a cyclist, so I got great lower body exercise by biking everywhere. My dream was to also own a wheelchair and use it just as much. Well, apparently despite being roughly the same thing, they cost a lot more — because they’re meant to be billed to insurance. So while, back then, you could get a decent starter mountain bike for about $150, a wheelchair started at like $500, and that was for a crappy hospital type one. Like I wanted a black one with a carbon fiber look, green accents, like sporty? Yeah I get it’s somewhat disrespectful to handicapped people to use them recreationally, but at the same time, wouldn’t it reduce the stigma if more people used them casually?
So yeah, I love the idea behind this game. Not sure if it’s something I actually want to play on my Switch though.
The kanji for wheelchair is “vehicle” and “chair”. Other examples using the kanji are: electric train “electric vehicle”, steam train “steam vehicle”, rikshaw “human power vehicle”, car “self moving vehicle”, and bicycle “self spinning vehicle”.
Is it that weird to call a wheelchair a “vehicle” in English? It’s certainly not the least bit inaccurate.