I am a South Korean player, and I’ve reached my limit with the lack of official transparency in this game. Why are players still forced to rely on crowdsourced statistics to figure out shiny rates or encounter odds for different Pokémon forms? What is the exact catch rate for a Raid Boss when the circle is red? Does landing consecutive Excellent throws actually decrease the success rate, as rumored? We deserve official answers, not urban legends.
Fortunately, as of August 1, 2025, the amended Game Industry Promotion Act is now in effect in South Korea. This law mandates the disclosure of probabilities for all "random-type items" in games serviced within Korea. To legally compel Scopely to disclose these odds, we must prove that "Raid Passes" and the resulting "Raid Pokémon" qualify as random-type items under the law.
In Korea, any item obtainable through paid means is classified as a paid commodity. We use "Premium Battle Passes"—which can be purchased—to obtain Premier Balls and catch Raid Pokémon. Since we spend paid currency for a chance to obtain a Pokémon with randomized stats and shiny status, these raids are essentially "random-type items."
The core problem is how the game evades this. By labeling the encounter as a "Bonus Challenge" after the raid, they attempt to sever the direct legal link between the paid Raid Pass and the randomized reward.
This is where we need your support:
- Public Statements: We need players to voice that their primary reason for spending currency on raids is to obtain the Pokémon itself. This blocks the excuse that we are only paying for the "raid experience."
- Global Precedents: If you know of any instances where laws in other countries (like those in the EU or UK) have successfully forced Pokémon GO to adjust its transparency, please share them in the comments.
South Korean trainers are ready to initiate legal proceedings against Scopely to ensure compliance with our new laws. This is a massive opportunity to make the game more user-friendly and transparent for everyone. Please join us.
by Koreadice
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This is korea player : https://m.dcinside.com/board/pokemongoplus/38277
korean game randombox law : https://www.law.go.kr/LSW//lsSideInfoP.do?lsiSeq=265811&joNo=0033&joBrNo=00&docCls=jo&urlMode=lsScJoRltInfoR
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This is very interesting. Hoping something comes of it
This is overdue! What a joke that they don’t need to tell us the odds for becoming lucky trades, or chances of shinies in the different encounters possible. I hate that!
How should also we voice our support for this aside from commenting here?
I ration Remote Raid Passes just to get a chance to catching specific legendaries if they’re in rotation to get the candy, hundo, or shiny or all of them.
I don’t know of any instances where PoGo had to disclose their drop rates but Valve had to comply with EU laws on CSGO, which lead to the creation of an “X-ray” mechanism
Instead of opening a lootbox without knowing what was inside players now know exactly what they will get before opening the box, that being said Valve made it so you can’t open an other box than the one you scanned since its content was revealed.
Yeah I’m definitely not spending money on raids just for the “raiding experience”.
If Scopely was transparent about shiny/catch rates their profits would most likely go up.
Do they seriously not realize how much more money they would make if they just listened to their user base?
They don’t even need to pay a think tank for ways to make more money. Just improve the game with suggestions from it’s users and money will roll in
I hope this works out. Pokémon are absolutely the only reason to buy any Raid Passes (Remote or Otherwise).
To be fair a law like this has existed for quite some time in Europe and nothing has really come from it…
That’s such a cool thing…
Would love to know the odds!
They will set things up with various percentages disclosed if played in South Korea, and continue doing their usual thing everywhere else. That or they just block South Korea.
It’s actually more like I’m tolerating the raiding experience in order to catch the pokemon lol
What I don’t get is why calling the raid encounter a bonus challenge circumvent the rules. Calling it that doesn’t make it so, no one is doing these raids for the item drops. People are doing the raids *for the encounter*, which makes it functionally a loot box the way it is set up. *And that requires transparency of the “loot box odds”*.
If Niantic/Scopely thought we were doing the raids for the items, that’s what they would’ve advertised from the raid eggs, but funnily enough they don’t do that, do they? /s Or remove the «bonus challenge» and see how many are interested in that. Like, they should only be allowed to advertise what they consider to be the actual rewards of the raid. Advertising the raid boss encounter they don’t consider to be the reward (and that *is* what they do when they have it hatch ontop of a gym) is dishonest, manipulative even.
But that’s just like my opinion, man 😞
If they are selling an increase in odds for shiny or encounters it should be fully disclosed like any other game
If you’re paying for a ticket to ‘increase chance of shiny’ then you should absolutely know whether that is a 0.1% increase vs a 200% increase.
As you mentioned, they try to weasel out of their legal obligations by pretending it’s a bonus.
So why don’t you just sidestep that completely? Don’t go for the Raids. Go for the events.
With the paid encounters with increased shiny chance (com day for example) they cannot claim that it’s a bonus, it’s the whole thing. And (afaik) they haven’t announced the shiny chance for that either.
And then, using that as a legal precedent of them breaking the law, you can go for the raids
No one, or a trivially minute percentage of someones, are playing for the raid experience and would be fine if the Pokemon just flies away at the end giving no catch screen. The few raids that have been like this in the mainline games (ie shiny Zeraora) were done on the promise that at the END of the event, everyone would get the pokemon. So we were all raiding for the mon ultimately. The game isn’t about who can collect the most raid resources. Players don’t whale to show off their dope potion collection and post screenshots of their massive charged TM stash to brag on.
You are supposed to collect pokemon. There is a dex entry that you have to fill to collect medals and each dex entry has spots that you are supposed to fill with different examples of that species. Shiny. XXL. XXS. 100%. Shadow. And so on. If they’re trying to act like you’re only raiding for some XP and berries, why are the pokemon you need to fill these categories only available in raids? If you want to complete your dex, which is ostensibly one of the primary objectives of the game, you must go where those dex entries are, which is raids. No one pays real money for green and blue passes to stand in a circle and kick the s#%@ out of a random pokemon to grow your stash of revives. All THOSE things are the bonus, but ultimately you are most often hoping to receive a better pokemon of that species than you currently have, or one that meets a dex requirement you don’t have yet (XXS etc).
The game developers are the ones telling me I need to collect pokemon. There isn’t a dex goading me to check off each off each kind of potion and berry and praising me for every hundred fast TMs I collect and so on. Guess what there IS.
Honestly. If you finally had all the, say, Landorus or Entei that you wanted (let’s say you finished the dex for them but you really want a hundo, a shiny, and an xyz stat shadow) and you had enough candy to ‘finish’ all of them to your liking, would you continue to pay real currency to raid Landorus a bunch of times? You’d move on and spend money on the next POKEMON that you wanted to find your grails of, yes? Not continue to throw money on Landorus and Entei raids to get those sweet, sweet berries. Be so for real right now Scopely.
Yasss kweeennnn get that file.
Do you need comments here?
Because I 100% only buy raid passes for 5 star raids for Pokémon I need to catch or want more of. The rewards from a raid alone eith no catch are not worth the 195 in game coins or 1.98 USD to get the pass. Especially when 1 raid pass is only good for 1 raid win. You do not get to repeat the raid if you miss the pokemon. In fact, that raid cannot be played again if you win the raid and miss the pokemon. This is why I am very stingy on raids and will not join if the chances of winning arent good to begin with. Nevermind if the rate of not getting a pokemon keeps increasing.
I hope this helps because I think if you use a purchased raid pass and win, the catch should be a guaranteed catch.
You are a living legend
Pursuing laws that have taken effect and “helping” a company enforcing said laws, is such a giga Chad move
Thanks for existing, I hope your pillow always stays cold and that your enemies may step on Lego daily.
Past event paid tickets claiming better chances of finding shinies could be used as evidence as well.
While I agree about the raid Pokemon, having the shiny chance mentioned in the incentives to buy paid tickets is solid evidence that can’t be “loophole languaged” away.
Good!! I hope you succeed
Greetings!
European player here!
I solely raid for the legendary or non legendary encounter in the end!
The candy from catching the Pokemon is used to level up what I have, if I already managed to raid myself towards whatever Shiny or IV of that species i wanted.
Remote raids doesn’t even yield the +3XL Candy för beating the boss, so it’s very likely NOONE remotes for any reason beside the actual catch encounter!
So I would never ever remote raid if it wasn’t the the pokemon catch encounter, hence it’s not a bonus for me. It’s the main attraction
I purchase remote raid passes so that I can catch select Pokémon available in raids. I am very selective of when I use the passes as I use them to catch high value (to me) Pokémon. When I use a pass I want to catch the Pokémon. I had had a few flee and it is always very disappointing. I will use high value berries to attempt to catch the Pokémon. I do not particularly enjoy the raid process. I participate because it is the only way to catch many legendary and other high value Pokémon.
The fact that they lowered base odds on certain species without any notice and denied changing anything was extremely scummy. At least before we knew what to expect from a certain species. Now it’s extremely hard to know the shiny rates before the events are over.
If the Pokemon from the raid was really the ‘bonus reward’ then when they do makeup events for raid errors, like the origin dialga & palkia one not too long ago, the makeup research would give us the lost items from raids wouldn’t it, not the encounter. This proves the Pokemon is actually the main reward and also proves that they know it.
Every singel raid i do with remote passess are to capture mons for the dex. To have it run away is like a slap to the face after spending money, getting in a competent group, and doing a raid which can end up lossing.
For max battles and mega raids now, we also need to pay for extra items and run the risk of loosing our paid passess if we lose. Because, losing in max and mega raids, will mean you lose your pass no matter if ya win or lose.
You’re talking about a game that uses an algorithm for PVP.
Take away all item rewards from raids, people will still raid. Take away the pokemon encounter from raids, literally no one will do raids.
I don’t see how it would legally hold up to scrutiny that the encounter is a bonus challenge and not the main reward.
With the disappearance of the Silph Road, I do miss reading into those odds. Why not (at least) just mention the odds at the bottom of the page. What does “If you’re lucky” even MEAN when compared to “If you’re very lucky”?! I’m honestly surprised a law like this doesn’t exist in the EU yet, what with how much “we” hate loot box logic.
Anyway, obviously the only reason I would be buying a premium raid pass (and would’ve been buying remotes if they weren’t deemed at equal value as a storage upgrade or item upgrade) would be to catch another instance of a Pokémon, generally aiming for a shiny or a hundo.
Hope you can use that.
u/Koreadice maybe you can also crosspost this to r/TheSilphRoad – people there are much more serious when it comes to these metrics.
Don’t forget to include eggs in your thesis. They are essentially a lootbox, they don’t show odds of hatching – just the egg symbol. Shiny rates are *also* undisclosed.
If it helps (American here) I end up throwing out probably 60-80% of the “rewards” from raids. I don’t need a surplus of revives, potions or even berries a lot of the time, so the only ones that are actual rewards are the stardust and the candies, plus the chance at the raid mon
This also should be applied to eggs, since the only way to hatch them is by using incubators and sometimes even species are locked behind a ticket to get a special egg
You are paying to enable a lootbox so yeah, egg odds should also be public, both the shiny rates and the rate of each level of rarity