Ubisoft says it’s ‘surprised’ by Mario + Rabbids sequel’s underperformance
Ubisoft says it’s ‘surprised’ by Mario + Rabbids sequel’s underperformance
by OfF3nSiV3
40 Comments
BluEyesWhtePrivilege
I have learned to never buy Ubisoft games Day 1, eventually they are on sale for 75% off.
I got Mario + Rabbids, and Starlink Deluxe both for 75% off and saved a ton of money.
People are going to be much more savvy with their spending this year.
picano
Considering how often the previous game goes on sale, it wouldn’t surprise me if people are just waiting on a sale.
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johncitizen69420
I loved the first game, and plan to get to it eventually, but im a bit overloaded with games atm. Ill pick it up in the next couple months probably
Spell-of-Destruction
For anyone waiting for inevitable sales, it’s a really great game so do get it eventually.
Adamaneve
Aside from the obvious, I’d also imagine the first game did as well as it did due to launching early in the system’s life. A sequel without as much new to offer five years into the console’s life isn’t nearly as enticing, especially at full price.
AlternativeGazelle
I noticed quickly after release that there was very little buzz about this game compared to the first. I would search Reddit and it seemed like hardly anyone was playing it.
Unfortunately I’m one who hasn’t played it yet. I’m a parent now so I just don’t have the time.
Dtsung
I am really curious about why unisoft game depreciate so fast….it does seem like a strategy they have been doing, and they really don’t have anyone else to blame
Venturin
I knew the price would drop quickly on this game, and when it was 50% off I bought it. Very fun game so far, I’m about 20% through the story.
Svvordfish5
Unfortunately they took away one of the big reasons I loved the first game which was co op. My wife and I loved the first game and it’s the first one we have 100% completed together in a long time but this one I bought on release and then learned it’s not coop. Not sure if that has any bearing but I would have waited had I known this beforehand.
the7thbeatle
I actually bought it but haven’t started yet, same as other games.
Been doing some other stuff, and when I do play it’s still mostly Splatoon 3.
BansheeTK
I have to wonder if people at ubisoft read reddit or other sites who keep going in about “wait for a sale” and then a sale for 40 happens and they want it to go even lower.
I really enjoyed it and I thought it was worth the price. I completely 100%d it
Fireball926
The market was a lot different when the original came out. There was a lot less options and I think most people were willing to try something new.
SpireVI
I picked this up for $14.
Was on sale for $25, and used credit to lower it to $14.
If you know a game is gonna have good sales relatively soon…..why pay the full cost?
Dunnston92
It’s nowhere near as good as the first
begselwalch
It released in the same month as the Nier and P5R ports and Bayonetta 3 and about a month later came Pokemon SV. Plus even though it’s a Mario game the gameplay itself is too niche compared to mainstream Mario titles…I believe the first one was also more of a “cult hit”.
Dangerous_Employee47
There ARE a wealth of new tactical RPGs that came out since the first game. Also, the latter levels of the standard game seem to be a bit on the difficult side, so I suspect that very few actually finished the game, let alone completed it.
Moznomick
I have to wonder if the reason the first one sold so many copies is due to the price dropping quickly? It was an amazing game that I’m sure many picked up after the price drop. I’m betting the same thing will happen with this one, and I’m one of those.
Darkray117
I didn’t see much marketing for this one.
evcorder
I got the first game, with all DLC included, for like 12$ a couple years after it released. I loved it, but I figure I can get it on a steep sale like I did the first one
DarthVitrial
It’s unfortunate it didn’t do well – if not for P5 Royal, this would have been my favorite game of the year.
I wonder if it’s because Ubisoft got a reputation for having constant sales, so everyone chose not to buy it and hope it would get a sale later?
gatortight
only suckers buy full price Ubisoft games
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yeahyeahyeahpeople
Other than the obvious Ubisoft price drop that will eventually happen, this game didn’t feel like the labor of love like the first one was. I just finished the sequel and it felt like it was just going through the motions.
– Way too much focus on the Rabbids this time
– Skipped the story and cutscenes this time because they are was too common and obnoxious.
– certain elements of the first game have been removed (like co-op). It really pushes its own ideas for a turn-based strategy game but doesn’t have the basics, like a revive option for teammates (until you find one spark that has it. If your teammate that has it equipped falls in battle you’re sol.)
– You max out at level 30, so you can’t complete all skill trees.
– Constant loading and game crashing bugs.
– sparse worlds compared to the first.
I even went out of my way to buy the gold edition with the season pass, but with all the frustrations I had by the end of the game, I have already traded it in.
Edit: forgot about the constant frame rate issues! Whenever I opened a “darkmess gate” the game would chug down to just a few frames per second because the visual effects wouldn’t stop.
SwashNBuckle
I wasn’t interested because they got rid of the grid-based gameplay and it feels like the aesthetic is less mario-inspired.
EMI_Black_Ace
This is exactly why Nintendo doesn’t ever drop the price of its games until they stop selling. Everybody saw how Ubisoft reduced the price of the first game, and they’re all just waiting until this one is $20 for the Gold Edition. Ubisoft has only itself to blame.
chocotripchip
Ubisoft: Heavily discounts games weeks after release.
also Ubisoft: Why aren’t people buying our games full price at launch?!?
rokelle2012
While I love buying games I want right away as soon as they release so that I have them when I finally get to them, video gaming is an expensive af hobby and lots of people are struggling financially right now.
Brandeaux7
The games price drops dramatically after a year. I liked the first one, but I don’t want to drop $60 on every game I buy. I want to play, but I’ll wait. Same goes for pac man world repac, waiting for $20 or less
thedrewsterr
I loved the first game and thought the second was missing focus.
The open world was nice but the random encounters were pointless.
They removed different weapons with effects like bounce, honey, and vampire for the star rabbids abilities which never felt as good in my opinion.
capnwinky
Mario + Rabbids is one of the best the genre has ever produced. I can’t even talk my most diehard tactics friends into even trying the game. Don’t know what it is.
acart005
On one hand I feel bad that this will probably kill the series.
On the other….. Ubisoft fire your promotional pricing team. Nobody wants to pay 60 dollars for something that will cost 20 if you wait 3 months. I don’t give a damn if the game is the second coming of Chrono Trigger.
jeepnut24
The first was basically a launch game. We didn’t have much else to choose from then.
DoctorSteve
/r/NintendoSwitch subreddit
“Nintendo games never go on sale, Nintendo sucks!”
“Ubisoft games go on sale right away, they should stop putting the games on sale so they retain value”
-dmpunk-
Honestly, I bought the first when there was a drought of first-party stuff and no other tactics games on the Switch. I enjoyed it, but there was just nothing else to fill the niche.
Now we have two Fire Emblem games (as of next week), Tactics Ogre, Triangle Strategy, Langrisser, Diofeld Chronicles, Valkyria Chronicles, XCOM, Advance Wars 1+2 coming… It’s just a complete opposite landscape to summer 2017, we have nearly *every* tactics game on Switch to choose from now. Why go with Rabbids?
CheezGaming
I bought it and it’s underwhelming in many aspects. I loved the grid system, weapon customization, and having two weapons.
Those are all features that have been removed in the new one.
Miimaster64
Are the sales known yet? I wanna know if this is a “Damn it only sold 50,000” or a Square-Enix kind of “underperformed”
GyaragaX
Here’s the thing, Ubisoft. The full game is $90, and I learned my lesson with the first game.
I bought the physical edition of the first one for full price, only to see the base game repeatedly marked down tremendously *and* see the full gold edition go on sale for less than I had paid for cartridge at launch, and then I had to wait like two years before they finally put the DLC on sale *by itself*.
Ubisoft does some predatory shit with DLC and does not reward those who support the game early on.
The underperformance is a product of their own making.
shauni87
I am waiting for big discount and Ubisoft is to blame for training people to do this
40 Comments
I have learned to never buy Ubisoft games Day 1, eventually they are on sale for 75% off.
I got Mario + Rabbids, and Starlink Deluxe both for 75% off and saved a ton of money.
People are going to be much more savvy with their spending this year.
Considering how often the previous game goes on sale, it wouldn’t surprise me if people are just waiting on a sale.
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I loved the first game, and plan to get to it eventually, but im a bit overloaded with games atm. Ill pick it up in the next couple months probably
For anyone waiting for inevitable sales, it’s a really great game so do get it eventually.
Aside from the obvious, I’d also imagine the first game did as well as it did due to launching early in the system’s life. A sequel without as much new to offer five years into the console’s life isn’t nearly as enticing, especially at full price.
I noticed quickly after release that there was very little buzz about this game compared to the first. I would search Reddit and it seemed like hardly anyone was playing it.
Unfortunately I’m one who hasn’t played it yet. I’m a parent now so I just don’t have the time.
I am really curious about why unisoft game depreciate so fast….it does seem like a strategy they have been doing, and they really don’t have anyone else to blame
I knew the price would drop quickly on this game, and when it was 50% off I bought it. Very fun game so far, I’m about 20% through the story.
Unfortunately they took away one of the big reasons I loved the first game which was co op. My wife and I loved the first game and it’s the first one we have 100% completed together in a long time but this one I bought on release and then learned it’s not coop. Not sure if that has any bearing but I would have waited had I known this beforehand.
I actually bought it but haven’t started yet, same as other games.
Been doing some other stuff, and when I do play it’s still mostly Splatoon 3.
I have to wonder if people at ubisoft read reddit or other sites who keep going in about “wait for a sale” and then a sale for 40 happens and they want it to go even lower.
I really enjoyed it and I thought it was worth the price. I completely 100%d it
The market was a lot different when the original came out. There was a lot less options and I think most people were willing to try something new.
I picked this up for $14.
Was on sale for $25, and used credit to lower it to $14.
If you know a game is gonna have good sales relatively soon…..why pay the full cost?
It’s nowhere near as good as the first
It released in the same month as the Nier and P5R ports and Bayonetta 3 and about a month later came Pokemon SV. Plus even though it’s a Mario game the gameplay itself is too niche compared to mainstream Mario titles…I believe the first one was also more of a “cult hit”.
There ARE a wealth of new tactical RPGs that came out since the first game. Also, the latter levels of the standard game seem to be a bit on the difficult side, so I suspect that very few actually finished the game, let alone completed it.
I have to wonder if the reason the first one sold so many copies is due to the price dropping quickly? It was an amazing game that I’m sure many picked up after the price drop. I’m betting the same thing will happen with this one, and I’m one of those.
I didn’t see much marketing for this one.
I got the first game, with all DLC included, for like 12$ a couple years after it released. I loved it, but I figure I can get it on a steep sale like I did the first one
It’s unfortunate it didn’t do well – if not for P5 Royal, this would have been my favorite game of the year.
I wonder if it’s because Ubisoft got a reputation for having constant sales, so everyone chose not to buy it and hope it would get a sale later?
only suckers buy full price Ubisoft games
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Other than the obvious Ubisoft price drop that will eventually happen, this game didn’t feel like the labor of love like the first one was. I just finished the sequel and it felt like it was just going through the motions.
– Way too much focus on the Rabbids this time
– Skipped the story and cutscenes this time because they are was too common and obnoxious.
– certain elements of the first game have been removed (like co-op). It really pushes its own ideas for a turn-based strategy game but doesn’t have the basics, like a revive option for teammates (until you find one spark that has it. If your teammate that has it equipped falls in battle you’re sol.)
– You max out at level 30, so you can’t complete all skill trees.
– Constant loading and game crashing bugs.
– sparse worlds compared to the first.
I even went out of my way to buy the gold edition with the season pass, but with all the frustrations I had by the end of the game, I have already traded it in.
Edit: forgot about the constant frame rate issues! Whenever I opened a “darkmess gate” the game would chug down to just a few frames per second because the visual effects wouldn’t stop.
I wasn’t interested because they got rid of the grid-based gameplay and it feels like the aesthetic is less mario-inspired.
This is exactly why Nintendo doesn’t ever drop the price of its games until they stop selling. Everybody saw how Ubisoft reduced the price of the first game, and they’re all just waiting until this one is $20 for the Gold Edition. Ubisoft has only itself to blame.
Ubisoft: Heavily discounts games weeks after release.
also Ubisoft: Why aren’t people buying our games full price at launch?!?
While I love buying games I want right away as soon as they release so that I have them when I finally get to them, video gaming is an expensive af hobby and lots of people are struggling financially right now.
The games price drops dramatically after a year. I liked the first one, but I don’t want to drop $60 on every game I buy. I want to play, but I’ll wait. Same goes for pac man world repac, waiting for $20 or less
I loved the first game and thought the second was missing focus.
The open world was nice but the random encounters were pointless.
They removed different weapons with effects like bounce, honey, and vampire for the star rabbids abilities which never felt as good in my opinion.
Mario + Rabbids is one of the best the genre has ever produced. I can’t even talk my most diehard tactics friends into even trying the game. Don’t know what it is.
On one hand I feel bad that this will probably kill the series.
On the other….. Ubisoft fire your promotional pricing team. Nobody wants to pay 60 dollars for something that will cost 20 if you wait 3 months. I don’t give a damn if the game is the second coming of Chrono Trigger.
The first was basically a launch game. We didn’t have much else to choose from then.
/r/NintendoSwitch subreddit
“Nintendo games never go on sale, Nintendo sucks!”
“Ubisoft games go on sale right away, they should stop putting the games on sale so they retain value”
Honestly, I bought the first when there was a drought of first-party stuff and no other tactics games on the Switch. I enjoyed it, but there was just nothing else to fill the niche.
Now we have two Fire Emblem games (as of next week), Tactics Ogre, Triangle Strategy, Langrisser, Diofeld Chronicles, Valkyria Chronicles, XCOM, Advance Wars 1+2 coming… It’s just a complete opposite landscape to summer 2017, we have nearly *every* tactics game on Switch to choose from now. Why go with Rabbids?
I bought it and it’s underwhelming in many aspects. I loved the grid system, weapon customization, and having two weapons.
Those are all features that have been removed in the new one.
Are the sales known yet? I wanna know if this is a “Damn it only sold 50,000” or a Square-Enix kind of “underperformed”
Here’s the thing, Ubisoft. The full game is $90, and I learned my lesson with the first game.
I bought the physical edition of the first one for full price, only to see the base game repeatedly marked down tremendously *and* see the full gold edition go on sale for less than I had paid for cartridge at launch, and then I had to wait like two years before they finally put the DLC on sale *by itself*.
Ubisoft does some predatory shit with DLC and does not reward those who support the game early on.
The underperformance is a product of their own making.
I am waiting for big discount and Ubisoft is to blame for training people to do this
I hate rabbids. That’s why I didn’t buy it.