According to a programmer, Metroid Prime Remaster credits do not include the names of the original developers
While many studios did amazing work on the remaster, I'm let down Metroid Prime's Remaster does not include the full original game credits. I worked with so many amazing people on the game and everyone's name should be included in the remaster, not just a single card like this. pic.twitter.com/Yvojf9f9Mq
— Zoid Kirsch (@ZoidCTF) February 11, 2023
by Turbostrider27
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This is common with remakes and remasters. It seems like a crapshoot which will have the original credits, no credits at all, or a single card such as this.
Jokes on them, I didn’t read either set.
So they missed Tommy Tallarico again? His mother would be proud.
I love how a programmer had to point this out because otherwise no one would notice since no one ever pays attention to credits of anything
It would be nice to recognize the original staff – even if it’s in a hidden away option somewhere
Come on, if you’re worried about credits being too long, why not just have a “classic credits” option in a sub-menu somewhere?
This would be like painting a house then telling people you built it.
Or remastering a movie and telling people you wrote, directed, starred in it.
Or restoring a damaged piece of art and telling people you painted it.
Weird so many people in here are downplaying this. It’s a shitty thing to do. If it’s a common problem in the industry then that shouldn’t justify it. Calling attention to it might do some good. Nobody is saying you can’t purchase or enjoy the game.
I can kinda understand that maybe the original names need to be asked to be credited for a remaster/remake. I my eyes a sentence like “and thanks to the original developer team for the original game as well” might be enough.
So we’re going back to Atari rules?
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I feel sorry for all the uncles who worked at Nintendo who will never receive the credit my elementary schoolmates said they deserved.
This is normal. Credits are very important in creative work to get a job. If you worked on the original you’re credited, if you did no work on the remaster you’re not, it really is that black and white.
Imagine if you worked on a game, 10 years later a remaster comes out and it’s awful. Would you want your name associated with it and looking like you worked on it?
Even worse if you’re applying for jobs/contracts and you’re falsely accredited to something bad and someone sees it, your name is tarnished.
While this is a good remaster from everything I’ve read, it’s important to only credit the work that was done. No more, no less.
EDIT: Downvote away, nothing I said is wrong. It’s literally a legal issue to credit the wrong people.
Yeah, remakes/remasters should credit the original creators as well.
All I’m saying is that Theseus still gets credit for his ship years after the remake.
That’s a shame considering one of the programmers (who sadly died a few years later) is well known for writing a, perhaps *the*, book on cameras in games. The book wasn’t finished before he died, but was finished by some other developers who worked on this game whose names will also be missing from the credits.
It harms no one to include credits by name instead of “thanks to the original staff” but at the same understand why they did the latter: having two credits rolling one after another could make the sequence too long.
Maybe a solution for this is to leave the “thanks to the original team” in the credits but also have an option in the main menu to see the original credits
Well, i will say i appreciate all of you devs who made this masterpiece. In the era of rushed games, holding gamers upside down to optimally extract cash, this game is incredibly refreshing. The music/ atmosphere is amazing, the exploration, and sense of an alien world is absurd for a 20 year old game. Thank you guys.
“According to a programmer.” Lol I mean, fine, but we don’t need to source it to a programmer. Anyone who actually watched the credits saw at the end that the final credit was to the entire staff that built the previous games and didn’t list their names
It took me a second to connect that this was the same Zoid who wrote ThreewaveCTF for Quake 1 back in the day. “A programmer” is kind of burying the lede here, Zoid is one of the original game modders-turned-professionals out there, and deserves a touch more respect than that.
For being anal about copy right they sure do know how to not credit people.
At the very end of the credits it states something to the effect of “and the original team”.
I actually watched through intentionally because I wanted to see if they credited any of the original devs, but was disappointed that they didn’t. Admittadly it would’ve made the credits much longer, but I really don’t see how the remake’s producers etc have more of a right to sign their names onto the game than the original creators.
Edit – oh yep, the tweet even shows a screenshot of what I was talking about. That’s what I get for not clicking links 😂
I think most remasters I’ve played credited everyone from the original game.
I thought it was weird to list CEO and managers of small companies that contributed to ports or remasters, but I guess that’s also normal for any game.
This is probably going to be unpopular to suggest, but didn’t Sonic Colors Ultimate do exactly this, include the credits for Sonic Colors as well as the credits for the remake, and didn’t people bitch *very loudly* that the credits were way too fucking long?
at least the Remastered says “thanks to the original development teams, for the Gamecube and Wii versions” (or something along those lines)…they nod towards the Original AND Trilogy remakes, in their Remaster…but if they want to make an unskippable 10-minute credit sequence into an unskippable 20-minute credit sequence, its going to piss off a lot more (impatient) people…i think that a Credits Option should always be available– for the Original team AND the Remastered team– in the Main Menu, so that players can skip them at the end of the game if they want to, but “programmers” can still watch them if They want to…but i guess we dont live in a world where Everyone can be happy or else everyone Would be…
What’s with Metroid games not properly crediting the developers
I agree with others that it’s a legal issue. These devs did NOT work on the remaster. Also, it’s lying on a resume/portfolio to say you worked on a remaster (if credit was given which it should not). They have the original game in their resume/portfolio. Nintendo owns the IP and rights to the code. As a senior developer, this is common sense.