Nintendo of America just shared a trailer for the Expansion Pack (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkQJAKJxfQ4) and during the video at 1:16 when showing Pokemon Stadium, the disclaimer “Pokemon cannot be transferred to this game” is shown at the bottom.
It had been removed from a Japanese video last month, leading people to speculate that perhaps functionality from the Game Boy Pokemon games would be added, and that Pokemon might come to Game Boy NSO.
by thecornballer1
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Well that sucks.
While Pokemon Stadium was good, what made it great was using our own Pokémon.
It’s been awhile, but I remember the rental Pokemon being really terrible.
They showed f zero which is coming this month then mario party 3 then pokemon stadium. Does this mean next month is mario party 3 then may is pokemon stadium?
We lost
Honestly surprised that anybody thought this was going to happen in the first place. Y’all keep making mountains out of mole hills.
People kept expecting Nintendo to not be dumb and keep getting upset when they are.
Y’all have yourselves to blame at this point.
So we getting this in a few days or at the end of the month?
What a rollercoaster Nintendo has sent us on.
I mean you didn’t expect Nintendo to choose the smart, customer friendly choice did you? Nintendo hates having old games available, even if you pay for them. It makes them money but they would rather you play their new stuff, even if it loses them money.
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This is why we will always have emulators and ROMs
The Pokémon Company was never going to allow it. I’m surprised anyone ever thought they would.
The dream is over.
Switch era Pokémon has been so disappointing. At least on the 3DS you could buy and enjoy the older games. It feels like they’re holding their own franchise hostage
Could mean the feature is scrapped after they intended to implement it. Or, they realized they shouldn’t have removed that disclaimer as soon as they did, so they added it back in, in hopes that they can excite fans when they do properly reveal the game boy games are coming to the service and that they’ll be capable of connecting.
Frankly, it’s just not enough info to really definitively say anything at this point. Time will tell I suppose.
Curious why this post is being downvoted. I don’t mind downvotes, but I’m just not sure what I’m saying that’s controversial here. Is it that I’m saying you might be right to still hold on hope, or is it that I’m saying you might be right to think the feature isn’t coming after all? Or is it because my post doesn’t answer anything, and just makes a point that we really have no clue if this means anything or not?
Nintendo being Nintendo.
“That new Japanese intern removed the disclaimer from the reuploaded NSO N64 games video before we announced it.”
“Quick, put it back on the other region’s trailer to make it look like it was a mistake.”
Won’t bother me if they add Transfer Pack compatibility or not.
We were on the verge of greatness
Lame. Not that I’m the type of person who would buy NSO, but providing that level of integration between NSO’s retro games would’ve added value to NSO as a combined service.
Really odd thing though, BOTH Pokémon in the trailer are level 100. Aren’t all the default Pokémon in the game level 50?
Classic Nintendo/game freak
Whats the point then?
People were just setting themselves up for disappointment expecting any different
I just want Diddy Kong Racing for the N64…
At this point they may as well just tell us whether they’re coming or not. There’s gonna be backlash anyway if they don’t release them so they may as well announce one way or the other and get the furore out of the way.
what are the odds that they put this trailer together specifically to put that disclaimer back in
Allow me to explain how Switch Emulation works. This does NOT say anything whether it will happen one day or not. And frankly, I don’t care either way since I don’t care about Pokemon. I do care about the technical side of emulation, so let’s go.
The N64 emulator currently is okay-ish but it has no way to emulate the Transfer Pak. It does emulate the Controller Pak (Savecards) but that option is disabled. So only the Rumble Pak is emulated and enabled.
Nintendo could easily allow Controler Pak emulation with the switch of a button, but they don’t. I suppose they are trying to find a way around the fact that you’d have to either open a menu or press a button combo. Perhaps they want the process to be automated. Either way, it isn’t a thing for unknown reasons but I do suspect it will happen eventually. Maybe in 2024 😉
Transfer Pak is not emulated at all. There is no way to access the device in the first place. Emulating that would require somebody writing code for it. Afterwards, it would require them to have a method to switch the Pak or disable the Rumble Pak. Alternatively they’d have to enable/disable a Pak on a game by game basis.
Now, while of course TECHNICALLY possible it is unlikely. That is just something Nintendo doesn’t do. Which brings me to the GameBoy games.
The GameBoy emulator is excellent. While I don’t know the actual format the games are being saved in, I assume it is the same SAV format every other GameBoy emulator uses. These saves are saved in the emulator subfolder on the system.
So, Nintendo would need to code the N64 emulator in a way that it has access to the GameBoy Emulator save location OR code the GameBoy Emulator in a way that it saves the Pokemon saves, and ONLY the Pokemon saves in the N64 folder. Both of these things will NOT happen. The first method could be used to cheat the system to simulate an NSO Expansion Pass when there is none and the second method would require them to create an N64 Emulation Folder even when there is no Expansion Pass. Of course, there could be safeguards, but this is Nintendo. Then they would need to code a Transfer Pak file that could read the storage from those save files and interpret it in a way the N64 games could read. And that, of course, on top of the fact that Pak switching isn’t a thing.
If you kept count, there are 6 different obstacles to tackle here, to transfer Pokemon from one game to another. Do you honestly, HONESTLY think Nintendo would go through all of that trouble because of YOU?
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tl;dr: There is no TLDR. Read the whole thing, lazy person.
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I do wonder why it was removed in the first place.
Lol how pathetic
I mean nintendo is dogshit at online. Not a secret. Like nso is way worse than both xbox live gold and ps plus. Like also now they add gb and gba games without any pokemon at that point its just obvious they dont have a clue and nso is just something they kinda have to do far away in the background. Cause they are doing a shit job at it
Im done with Nintendo and especially done with pokemon company.
Charizard moveset for stadium 2 as a rental pisses me off. Smh fire punch.
As long as they got mini games, IM IN.
Bruh just give us Pokémon Yellow on NSO GBC no trading/importing just the game YA KILLIN ME NINTENDO
So we getting red, blue, yellow and can I do the rare candy glitch?
They trolled us hard to get those clicks for the Pokemon Presents.
I mean is it really still that out of the question?
They have SP’s for other retro emulators. Couldn’t they just make SP’s with pre-loaded transfer Pokémon. Basically rentals but with good move sets.
They really hold the mainline Pokemon GB/GBA games to some Golden Goose levels to not re-release them or put them on this service.
Why advertise about not being able to transfer pokémon if we don’t even have on switch the games from which we could transfer them? I think the disclaimer refers to the games already available on switch, and it don’t/wont rule out the possibility on transferring from R/B/Y when they eventually will be playable on switch.
People expecting Nintendo to fully support 23 year old game smh
I came for the Pokemon Stadium footage and stayed for the comments section. They are absolutely tearing into Nintendo right now.
Stadium isn’t even a game without the transfer pack.
Somehow, I wonder if feedback will make them reconsider this.
I mean, it WAS a big selling point of the original games, so it’d be odd of them to just leave it out.
…then again these are the same people who forgot about the Super Game Boy when porting the GB games to Virtual Cosnole…
People speedrun the gym leaders without transferring Pokemon all the time. And then there is the mini-games. It will be fine fanboys.