0:00 – Beyond the Hype Analysis
2:48 – Battles
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Pokemon GO has just announced the Adventures Abound season featuring the pokemon found in the Paldea Region. This season of GO Battle League features a significant move updates includes nerfs, buffs, and new moves. In total it came with over 150 move updates.
With all these move updates, this video will focus on pokemon that received a significant buff for this upcoming season of GO Battle League either through moves specifically being buffed or access to new moves.
Welcome to Beyond the Hype. I created this series as there is a lot of click bait and false impressions of pokemon and I want to give you a real in depth analysis of whether a pokemon is worth spending dust and candies on. In this video we look at Steelix. Steelix got breaking swipe which lowers your opponents attack. Unforutnately this pokemon suffers from many issues in my opinion:
1. Too many weaknesses against main GL meta typings (fighting, ground, water)
2. Bait Dependent – Many of you wins on PVPoke are dependent on baiting Breaking Swipes and then landing the Earthquake
3. Non STAB Dragon Moves – you will see in my first battle how NON-STAB charge moves affect damage
Steelix Great League Team
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The normal version is a lot better at spamming breaking swipe and eating hits
Shadow steelix lives a non-debuffed earth power from a shadowqueen with about 15% hp..
Thank you so much for these kinda reviews. You saved Stardust for a bunch of people
I really would like to say, that even though I appreciate you doing these, I can't help but feel that this kind of analysis is pretty shallow. I mean, who is to say it's not your team and your choice of constructions that gave you mediocre results more than the mon actually being underwhelming.
Just saying, tour first inclination of team building choices doesn't mean the mon is weak. It might just be your team isn't using it well.
Another team, another alignment, another role and suddenly the mon might loook amazing.
I had a good day w Shadow Steelix including beating OnionFr4nk. I was running it w Medi and Shadow Vic.
This is what I had thought would happen, and I appreciate the review. Even if the normal version is ranked higher, that's not saying much that a Shadow ranks lower than its counterpart. I do love Steelix but in great league it has to contend like you said with the mud boys, Poliwrath, fairy types like Azumarill and that battle you had with Shadow Granbull, who occasionally comes up for spice and limited. If I ever do get a good onix, I'll certainly keep one in the back for a rainy day but I'm not going to go hunting like mad atm.
None shadow version maybe better, more tanky means more spamming breaking swipe
Is TF better than DT ? For the fast move
I used S. Steelix, mandi and azu and went 25/25 😂
Vs bad leads I would just farm 2 or 3 basics and swap
Second day I started 1-4, 1-4 😂 because stupid medi would beat both azu or mandi 😥 I wonder if good iv azu or Mandibuzz actually win vs medichan
Man I've been loving my shadow k9 with scorching sands instead of overheat
I had a steelix built already and I was very unimpressed with it as well.
In your first battle, you would've won the 1v1 against the Dewgong had you used Breaking Swipe immediately instead of losing CMP and getting debuffed. In general you also should not shield their first move because the only way that shadow Steelix loses the 1s and 2s against Dewgong is to shield an Icy Wind.
In your second battle, shadow Steelix dominates Nidoqueen going straight Breaking Swipe, so I'm confused why you did 6 Dragon Tails and let them threaten Earth Power before you debuffed them. A single debuffed Nidoqueen does only 55% with Earth Power. Even if they baited you successfully with Poison Fang, you get to 2 Breaking Swipes before they get to PF + EP, so their EP at -2 atk is still only doing 58% to your -2 def.
Steelix's sim-hero power is actually more from its ability to power through matchups going straight Breaking Swipe rather than winning bait dependent matchups. For example, if you sim its 1-shield matchups, its record barely changes regardless of what 2nd charged move it has. It's terrible in the 0s, which is where it benefits a lot from having a closing move (though it still has a losing record).
I agree that it's not as broken as it was hyped up to be in GL, but I feel like you didn't give it a fair shake by misplaying it. It definitely seems like a Pokemon where you have to understand its matchups. Because whereas with most Pokemon who are usually played [build to nuke > threaten bait], with Steelix you often don't do that, but sometimes you do, and you wouldn't know when unless you looked into it beforehand.
I love this new series! Only 2 episodes sure but you're on to something good here 😀
I have shadow steelix which is 100ish rank in UL, but if i purified it will turn to rank 6 UL, so which one is better steelix?
Honestly Steelix is more of an Ultra League Pokémon than a great league one
Love the series
I used it for like 2 games and didn’t love it. What I thought when I saw the move update, and kinda what you’re saying, is a “steel type that loses to fairies”
Yeah tell that to Zyonik and jonkUsPKMN lol ohhh shadow and bad stats
Beyond the hype is the hero we need
If you want earth quake, should not use shadow form, you must keep game longer to use it,
Is the shadow still gonna be good for ultra league?
Chesnaught, lantern, g Fisk…. Try it (ABB ches as the lead )
best pvp youtuber in the game!
Thank you
finally a honest review
Awesome idea the Beyond the Hype Series.
I tryed non shadow Steelix with Psychic Fangs and Breaking Swipe and for me it was a bit more versatile than what you experienced in the video… Although it also had to be carried away by the rest of the team some times
I think the problem with Steelix is that because it's the same typing as Galarian Stunfisk you're expecting it to do the same things i.e. beat other steels & fairies, when in reality it has a completely different function. Of course a double dragon moveset will massively hold it back against other steels & fairy types but if you look at the matchups where it can deal neutral damage, especially if the opposing Pokemon has low fast move pressure or resisted damage, its absolutely dominant in the 2s going straight breaking swipe.
Examples include against Dewgong, unlike in your game, if you go straight breaking swipe before they throw their first move, you win all even shields as a regular Steelix, despite Steelix only hitting for neutral damage & Dewgong hitting for super effective with drill run. Same with Nidoqueen in battle 2. Poison jab is triple resisted so if you get off the breaking swipe before a potential earth power its an easy win in all shields.
Also worth the hype: carbink
absolutely awesome… "Beyond the Hype" series – i really like the parts using PVPoke, and assessing the wins/losses as you're watching the battles…
Great assessment, thank you! Can you do a Hitmontop test next?
lol this popped up on my home page right after i watched zyonik's steelix video..appreciate you keeping it real
I was very excited to use steelix but thanks for saving me the dust 👍
I really wished steelix get this new ground move.. Eq is bit to expensive cuz it fast move arent that fast generate energy. not use matrix battle, but i think new ground move would be gud. funny its now more dragon than ground steel XD
It has some play but not in the top 10 Great League Pokémons.
What is it going to do against a Medicham?
Or a Shadow Poliwrath?
Or a Swampert?