Summary of sexual and non-sexual allegations in the Super Smash Bros. community
Summary of sexual and non-sexual allegations in the Super Smash Bros. community
by razorbeamz
12 Comments
prettydarnminty
Gonna throw out a smoldering hot take here that’s reductive af for the situation (I’ll back it up I swear), but god do I really hate gamers.
esports, fighting games, video games, any recreational activity really, all are places that draw in younger audiences, for the obvious reasons. They’re fun, the subject matter is usually “cool” or well targeted to tweens/teens, and they have the most free time to dump into it! Every year more and more kiddos and teenagers and young adults break further into a new community, or break in for the first time, and that’s great and we need to encourage people to do this, and it’s why gatekeeping is unhealthy and foolish, everyone should want to see new people having fun with the things we all love!!
I can’t get over how many of these stories can be summed up with “introverted & unaware nerd doesn’t know how to express themselves or is repressed sexually so they predate on those more vulnerable than them in a familiar setting”. Heck I can’t get over how easy the signs for this are to see in so many recreational environments. Partying hard, kicking back a few with the boys, getting smashed and letting “boys be boys” is a cesspool for this kinda behavior, but throw in kiddos and younger budding adults, especially those who are usually social outcasts at home or in their normal life and things get wacky, wild, weird, and *bad*.
People in general obviously need to knock this off in a big way and we need to reform society to not normalize these predatory environments, but also the gaming community needs to stop acting so underhanded about stuff like this and learn how to interact with others and value the personal space and sanctity of others. This is so not cool but so many of these stories read so much like “gamers being scummy because they can’t interact with others properly” and it’s sad and upsetting.
Hammered21
this doesnt really seem like something appropriate for the sub
joe14019
I cant fucking believe the story about D1. Fuck man
WEEGEMAN
I’m going to be blunt, and I honestly don’t care. I do not like the competitive Smash community or its fans.
I was appalled when I heard this was happening, and I’m glad the community has the opportunity to purge these people from their ranks, so the victims can heal. Hopefully this behavior is to put to an end.
But that’s not why I dislike the community. They put these players on pedestals. If you sub to any of the smash communities on reddit, a majority of the topics are about popular players rather than the game itself.
As a kid who grew up with Smash, enjoyed talking about the game with my friends. I really don’t think the pro-community has been too good for the game’s overall image.
It’s gotten too competitive and commercialized. It’s not about the game any more, and more about the pro’s opinions about high level play. It isn’t about modes, trophies, or high scores on the home run contest.
All anyone wants to talk about is some 30-year-old’s opinions on tiers.
Last year when a pro player called on Nintendo to support the competitive scene with money, bringing attention to low-winnings, I decided to step away.
I didn’t want to see Nintendo get involved, and the off chance they did, I didn’t want to be apart of the casual community any more and have to read more about some weird-nicknamed kid from Mexico and his picks for some grand finale tournament rather than people discussing the actual game.
And it’s quite frankly cancerous and filled with gate keeping. Back before Smash Ultimate launched there were a handful of topics popping up bemoaning casual players infecting their sub with anticipation. They’d rather see people still talk about Smash 4, and where the competitive seen was going. And then you’d see replies agreeing, and saying that casual fans will go away after the game launches, and they’ll be able to claim their sub back.
So my first thought when this news came out was I felt bad for the victims. My second thought was good for Nintendo having the foresight not to “invest” in the competitive scene filled with pedos, and my final thought is I hope this, coupled with COVID, destroys Smash’s celebrity culture.
CenturionDC
It’s a pretty fucked up situation.
I thought the smash community was more of a love the game type thing but yeah pedophilia is not OK. Should be more protective of the minors cause apparently they were at risk.
mokango
A post that is just a list of 120 tweets from people I do not know anything about is a shitty summary.
semonin3
I ready to be downvoted. But anyone who hears about Nairo’s situation needs to look at this.
Zach came on to Nairo hard. I couldnt imagine a reason that I would want to come out and tell mass amounts of people about something I did when I was 15. Especially if I tried my best to get away with doing it.
Nario did something awful and made it way worse by trying to cover it up. But im not so sure Zach is innocent in the way that this was handled. He says he doesn’t want to cancel Nairo but thats exactly what he is doing.
Zach even has a post on that link where he’s ASKING for money.
DannyBright
Looks like r/kappa is gonna be having the last laugh.
b3anz129
yeep
SuperMario1981
> Remember that anyone accused is **innocent until proven guilty**.
Really? Gee, that’s refreshing. I thought that society had discarded that particular principle. I’m so relieved to hear that we’re embracing it again this particular week.
DarkPDA
holy sh….
congrats on those guys, nintendo never will approuch movements, tournaments etc again.
Alsayda
I just wanted to post a collection of links that I’ve found relating to CaptainZack’s allegations towards Nairo including Nairo texting Ally with Nairo freaking out about potentially being cancelled, as well as Samsora and Lima texting each other deciding whether to encourage Zack going public with his story:
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Gonna throw out a smoldering hot take here that’s reductive af for the situation (I’ll back it up I swear), but god do I really hate gamers.
esports, fighting games, video games, any recreational activity really, all are places that draw in younger audiences, for the obvious reasons. They’re fun, the subject matter is usually “cool” or well targeted to tweens/teens, and they have the most free time to dump into it! Every year more and more kiddos and teenagers and young adults break further into a new community, or break in for the first time, and that’s great and we need to encourage people to do this, and it’s why gatekeeping is unhealthy and foolish, everyone should want to see new people having fun with the things we all love!!
I can’t get over how many of these stories can be summed up with “introverted & unaware nerd doesn’t know how to express themselves or is repressed sexually so they predate on those more vulnerable than them in a familiar setting”. Heck I can’t get over how easy the signs for this are to see in so many recreational environments. Partying hard, kicking back a few with the boys, getting smashed and letting “boys be boys” is a cesspool for this kinda behavior, but throw in kiddos and younger budding adults, especially those who are usually social outcasts at home or in their normal life and things get wacky, wild, weird, and *bad*.
People in general obviously need to knock this off in a big way and we need to reform society to not normalize these predatory environments, but also the gaming community needs to stop acting so underhanded about stuff like this and learn how to interact with others and value the personal space and sanctity of others. This is so not cool but so many of these stories read so much like “gamers being scummy because they can’t interact with others properly” and it’s sad and upsetting.
this doesnt really seem like something appropriate for the sub
I cant fucking believe the story about D1. Fuck man
I’m going to be blunt, and I honestly don’t care. I do not like the competitive Smash community or its fans.
I was appalled when I heard this was happening, and I’m glad the community has the opportunity to purge these people from their ranks, so the victims can heal. Hopefully this behavior is to put to an end.
But that’s not why I dislike the community. They put these players on pedestals. If you sub to any of the smash communities on reddit, a majority of the topics are about popular players rather than the game itself.
As a kid who grew up with Smash, enjoyed talking about the game with my friends. I really don’t think the pro-community has been too good for the game’s overall image.
It’s gotten too competitive and commercialized. It’s not about the game any more, and more about the pro’s opinions about high level play. It isn’t about modes, trophies, or high scores on the home run contest.
All anyone wants to talk about is some 30-year-old’s opinions on tiers.
Last year when a pro player called on Nintendo to support the competitive scene with money, bringing attention to low-winnings, I decided to step away.
I didn’t want to see Nintendo get involved, and the off chance they did, I didn’t want to be apart of the casual community any more and have to read more about some weird-nicknamed kid from Mexico and his picks for some grand finale tournament rather than people discussing the actual game.
And it’s quite frankly cancerous and filled with gate keeping. Back before Smash Ultimate launched there were a handful of topics popping up bemoaning casual players infecting their sub with anticipation. They’d rather see people still talk about Smash 4, and where the competitive seen was going. And then you’d see replies agreeing, and saying that casual fans will go away after the game launches, and they’ll be able to claim their sub back.
So my first thought when this news came out was I felt bad for the victims. My second thought was good for Nintendo having the foresight not to “invest” in the competitive scene filled with pedos, and my final thought is I hope this, coupled with COVID, destroys Smash’s celebrity culture.
It’s a pretty fucked up situation.
I thought the smash community was more of a love the game type thing but yeah pedophilia is not OK. Should be more protective of the minors cause apparently they were at risk.
A post that is just a list of 120 tweets from people I do not know anything about is a shitty summary.
I ready to be downvoted. But anyone who hears about Nairo’s situation needs to look at this.
[https://imgur.com/a/zozlTOV](https://imgur.com/a/zozlTOV)
Zach came on to Nairo hard. I couldnt imagine a reason that I would want to come out and tell mass amounts of people about something I did when I was 15. Especially if I tried my best to get away with doing it.
Nario did something awful and made it way worse by trying to cover it up. But im not so sure Zach is innocent in the way that this was handled. He says he doesn’t want to cancel Nairo but thats exactly what he is doing.
Zach even has a post on that link where he’s ASKING for money.
Looks like r/kappa is gonna be having the last laugh.
yeep
> Remember that anyone accused is **innocent until proven guilty**.
Really? Gee, that’s refreshing. I thought that society had discarded that particular principle. I’m so relieved to hear that we’re embracing it again this particular week.
holy sh….
congrats on those guys, nintendo never will approuch movements, tournaments etc again.
I just wanted to post a collection of links that I’ve found relating to CaptainZack’s allegations towards Nairo including Nairo texting Ally with Nairo freaking out about potentially being cancelled, as well as Samsora and Lima texting each other deciding whether to encourage Zack going public with his story:
Tamim’s 1st TwitLonger: [https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1srda66](https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1srda66)
Samsora and Lima’s Text Conversation provided by Tamim and comfirmed true by Samsora: [https://imgur.com/a/LB2UON5](https://imgur.com/a/LB2UON5)
Tamim’s 2nd TwitLonger: [https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1srdcq6](https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1srdcq6)
Samsora’s TwitLonger: [https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1srdb7j](https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1srdb7j)
Text Conversation Between Ally and Nairo according to Dark Disciple: [https://twitter.com/D_DiscipIe/status/1279961305588383744](https://twitter.com/D_DiscipIe/status/1279961305588383744)