I mean, that should be an industry standard (it’s not)
lazycakes360
The fact that this isn’t the standard nowadays from AAA developers is extremely sad and infuriating. Nobody should have to say this.
Pupulauls9000
Completely unrelated but Cloud being there in that screenshot next to Bowser, Samus, Yoshi, Pikachu, Kirby, Little Mac, DK, etc is still crazy to me
MXC_Vic_Romano
Games are almost always launched in the best condition development allows. Whole lot of Publishers and Product Management teams just don’t necessarily care what that condition is.
RolandoDR98
Looking at you POKEMON
bulldog_blues
At the risk of sounding old af, one thing I appreciated about gaming in the 2000s and before was that there was no *choice* but to release games in as good a condition as possible, because patching wasn’t an option. A lot of crap still got churned out of course, but those businesses often didn’t do very successfully whereas nowadays they get let off with ‘oh all the bugs and problems will get patched, no biggie’.
megasean3000
One would think releasing games fully complete at launch (Or at least as complete as they could minus patching a few bugs that slipped play testing), would be the norm.
custardBust
Taking the side of the audience
DonnieMoistX
Everybody sitting here criticizing developers instead of criticizing all the consumers who are buying the half assed crap AAA studios are putting out.
Yes it includes Nintendo fans too. If you bought Super Mario Party, Mario Golf Super Rush, Mario Strikers, Switch Sports, or any Pokémon game from the last decade. You’re part of the problem just like me.
If we didn’t buy these unfinished games, companies would realize they can’t make bank with half assed games.
lgosvse
Honestly? I never understood version updates for games. You can’t release a game that isn’t finished yet.
I wish that whatever the final versions of the games are were the ONLY versions.
Yes, this would delay the games by an insane degree. It’s worth it. To use a Sakurai game as an example, imagine if Super Smash Bros. Ultimate wasn’t released until late 2021. That’s about a three-year delay. But in exchange… all the DLC would be in the game at launch. That’s a much better value, and it’d probably mean that we’d see the DLC be better utilized. DLC characters would actually have roles in World of Light, they’d be present in more spirit battles and classic mode routes, they’d have Palutena’s Guidance conversations, and so on. Because they wouldn’t just be haphazardly added later.
I think it’s worth it to go three more years without Smash on Switch in order to get all that. But I’m probably just old-fashioned. I grew up in the NES era. And I get that times are changing and I should adapt.
flojo2012
Must be one of those communists!!!
/s
manypains03
Tell that to free updates Nintendo
ZenkaiZ
Sakurai: We’ll pretend Brawl didn’t happen
ResidentLanguage947
Nintendo must have done some ritual to remove all of their bad game development energy and give it to Game Freak.
Regret-Select
I’d rather wait more years if it meant a game was actually released as intended
CosmicOwl47
Sakurai absolutely has the right to be cocky about this and throw shade at the other studios. I assume it’s mostly pointed at the leadership who are the ones who are forcing unfinished games out the door
therealskaconut
Patches have made us weak. Release games printed on carts.
A-Centrifugal-Force
No wonder Sakurai loves Monolithsoft games so much. They’re some of the few games that actually release in great condition.
Darth_Vaper883
Shouldn’t be something that has to be told to devs. Must be standard at this point.
CMDR_omnicognate
It seems like common sense, but most AAA games don’t any more it seems
M8asonmiller
“Finish your games before you release them”
How did we get here?
Thecrawsome
/r/notnews
Princevader
Gamefreak shade 😂
Goobasaurus1
Man I really don’t want there to be a new smash, dumb opinion I know but I feel like Ultimate just can’t be topped
Perydwynn
The fact that this isn’t just the norm is such a sad idictment of the mkdern (mostly western) game industry 🙁
brzzcode
Incredible how there’s 57 comments and none of them talk about anything but the headline.
DarthRathikus
Yeah and without extra DLC character packs please
No_Shower_1068
DLC needs to become a rare occurrence, like amiibo. Launch DLC is just evil and greedy.
half-giant
The ability to patch games has created a culture of laziness in videogame development.
Or maybe modern videogames are so wildly complex in design that there is more room for bugs to slip through the cracks than ever before.
I’m not a coder so I can only make uneducated guesses. But it *feels* like things have gotten lazier.
TheMagicalMatt
God, thank you. I’m glad someone within the industry is saying it.
SpideyFan4ever
I agree but I think it’s important to recognize that it’s not as easy as it used to be. With games as big as they are nowadays like say starfield, with so many complexities I’d say it’s next to impossible to catch every single bug now.
IAmThePonch
I’d say the majority of games are not worth buying at launch. Like 90%. So many just get updates and price drops later
Due_Turn_7594
Ok so put it on steam so we can play on pc. Nintendo games are amazing, their hardware Nd software are hot water trash
Riomegon
Games are more complex than ever yet we hear of them launching in broken to semi broken states all the time. Then we have the studio closings epidemic and consumer spending on gaming dropping as sales dip this year with an unhealthy economy. It’s almost like trying your best at this time would be to your benefit.
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Everyone asks this.
[Game Freak:](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/039/926/huhcover.jpg)
I mean, that should be an industry standard (it’s not)
The fact that this isn’t the standard nowadays from AAA developers is extremely sad and infuriating. Nobody should have to say this.
Completely unrelated but Cloud being there in that screenshot next to Bowser, Samus, Yoshi, Pikachu, Kirby, Little Mac, DK, etc is still crazy to me
Games are almost always launched in the best condition development allows. Whole lot of Publishers and Product Management teams just don’t necessarily care what that condition is.
Looking at you POKEMON
At the risk of sounding old af, one thing I appreciated about gaming in the 2000s and before was that there was no *choice* but to release games in as good a condition as possible, because patching wasn’t an option. A lot of crap still got churned out of course, but those businesses often didn’t do very successfully whereas nowadays they get let off with ‘oh all the bugs and problems will get patched, no biggie’.
One would think releasing games fully complete at launch (Or at least as complete as they could minus patching a few bugs that slipped play testing), would be the norm.
Taking the side of the audience
Everybody sitting here criticizing developers instead of criticizing all the consumers who are buying the half assed crap AAA studios are putting out.
Yes it includes Nintendo fans too. If you bought Super Mario Party, Mario Golf Super Rush, Mario Strikers, Switch Sports, or any Pokémon game from the last decade. You’re part of the problem just like me.
If we didn’t buy these unfinished games, companies would realize they can’t make bank with half assed games.
Honestly? I never understood version updates for games. You can’t release a game that isn’t finished yet.
I wish that whatever the final versions of the games are were the ONLY versions.
Yes, this would delay the games by an insane degree. It’s worth it. To use a Sakurai game as an example, imagine if Super Smash Bros. Ultimate wasn’t released until late 2021. That’s about a three-year delay. But in exchange… all the DLC would be in the game at launch. That’s a much better value, and it’d probably mean that we’d see the DLC be better utilized. DLC characters would actually have roles in World of Light, they’d be present in more spirit battles and classic mode routes, they’d have Palutena’s Guidance conversations, and so on. Because they wouldn’t just be haphazardly added later.
I think it’s worth it to go three more years without Smash on Switch in order to get all that. But I’m probably just old-fashioned. I grew up in the NES era. And I get that times are changing and I should adapt.
Must be one of those communists!!!
/s
Tell that to free updates Nintendo
Sakurai: We’ll pretend Brawl didn’t happen
Nintendo must have done some ritual to remove all of their bad game development energy and give it to Game Freak.
I’d rather wait more years if it meant a game was actually released as intended
Sakurai absolutely has the right to be cocky about this and throw shade at the other studios. I assume it’s mostly pointed at the leadership who are the ones who are forcing unfinished games out the door
Patches have made us weak. Release games printed on carts.
No wonder Sakurai loves Monolithsoft games so much. They’re some of the few games that actually release in great condition.
Shouldn’t be something that has to be told to devs. Must be standard at this point.
It seems like common sense, but most AAA games don’t any more it seems
“Finish your games before you release them”
How did we get here?
/r/notnews
Gamefreak shade 😂
Man I really don’t want there to be a new smash, dumb opinion I know but I feel like Ultimate just can’t be topped
The fact that this isn’t just the norm is such a sad idictment of the mkdern (mostly western) game industry 🙁
Incredible how there’s 57 comments and none of them talk about anything but the headline.
Yeah and without extra DLC character packs please
DLC needs to become a rare occurrence, like amiibo. Launch DLC is just evil and greedy.
The ability to patch games has created a culture of laziness in videogame development.
Or maybe modern videogames are so wildly complex in design that there is more room for bugs to slip through the cracks than ever before.
I’m not a coder so I can only make uneducated guesses. But it *feels* like things have gotten lazier.
God, thank you. I’m glad someone within the industry is saying it.
I agree but I think it’s important to recognize that it’s not as easy as it used to be. With games as big as they are nowadays like say starfield, with so many complexities I’d say it’s next to impossible to catch every single bug now.
I’d say the majority of games are not worth buying at launch. Like 90%. So many just get updates and price drops later
Ok so put it on steam so we can play on pc. Nintendo games are amazing, their hardware Nd software are hot water trash
Games are more complex than ever yet we hear of them launching in broken to semi broken states all the time. Then we have the studio closings epidemic and consumer spending on gaming dropping as sales dip this year with an unhealthy economy. It’s almost like trying your best at this time would be to your benefit.
Nintendo games are the only AAA games that
1. I would call AAA in the first place.
2. That are fun.
3. That have alot of heart put into them.