Nintendo and Pokémon are suing Palworld maker Pocketpair
Nintendo and Pokémon are suing Palworld maker Pocketpair
by Cubezzzzz
35 Comments
ob_matrix
That took ages. I believed they were clear.
Patenting instead of copyright is intriguing.
ice_shy
Life has three certainties.
Death, taxes, Nintendo lawsuit
original_og_gangster
There’s already a post about this
T_Peg
I mean it’s not a surprise when their designs are Chinese knockoffs of Pokemon. Pal world always looked like one of those Chinese mobile games you get ads for that straight up use actual pokemon.
theScrewhead
I’m honestly surprised it took this long. There’s SO much just in the initial launch trailer that’s clearly just bits and pieces of Pokemon models mashed together into new ones like that PokeFuse app that uses the sprites.
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kupocake
Lawsuit seems totally winnable tbh. Court should stipulate that any damages awarded must be reinvested in making Pokémon games look they were developed within the last two decades.
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PixelatedGamer
Even though it was mentioned earlier it is worth stating again this is a patent lawsuit. As much as they suck they are legitimate and happen all the time. Look at the various lawsuits Microsoft, Apple and Google have been a part of. Even though the designs may have caught Nintendo’s attention that’s not why Pocketpair is being sued.
davidww-dc
hope they lose
Payton_Xyz
Here’s my question: what is the patent or patents they are going for specifically?
And even if they did, I think worst case scenario is Palworld is taken down for a while so they can overhaul whatever it is if its minor, which I’m kind of thinking it is at present. Or they’d just be slapped with fines and move on, I have zero clue on how Japanese copyright/patent law works, but I do know its far more strict.
The only thing I’m not clear on is what damages Nintendo is filing for? I’m probably missing the obvious, but from my understanding, there shouldn’t be? Palworld is on systems that have no affiliation with Nintendo, so I can’t imagine it would be lost profits, right?
Conscious_Yoghurt_68
Nintendo: “These are some clean ass boots from this thread.”
RyomaLobster
What’s the thing they are suing for I know it’s a patent thing which I think means a game mechanic but there hasn’t been much information on it. Does anyone know??
FoxLIcyMelenaGamer
And nothing of value was lost
GourmetYoshe
Hey, game designer here. Don’t get me wrong, Pocketpair is known to just make blatant “ripoff” games with their own twists to profit off of other games popularity. Thats pretty low.
BUT patenting gameplay and then suing over gameplay is insane. Not even worth typing out an “argument” to reason why that is. I’m surprised so many comments on here are completely absolving Nintendo in this. The industry is terrible right now and things like this only slow the industry down and make the feature look even bleaker.
GDE_72406
‘Bout time
TMGFANFARE
For anyone who’s interested, [here’s](https://youtu.be/cbH9-lzx4LY?feature=shared) a good video explaining how the Japanese patent system works in the video game industry and what happened the last time Nintendo sued a company over patent issues.
One thing we should remember is that while Nintendo is infamous for a lot of lawsuits or strikes, **copyright law** is a different manner from **patent law**. In the case of patent law, the instances which they went to court over this is actually quite rare.
I’m suspecting that in contrast to the usual opinions I’ve seen in Reddit about why Nintendo took action (the ball-catching mechanic patent), PocketPair made a major blunder, or in worst cases, tried to be a shark themselves regarding patent issues that negotiations were out of the window.
slmkaz
The timing is interesting, maybe they also waited for playerbase to die down so immediate backlash would be smaller? A full year to gather evidence on patent infringement just seems high.
Curious what patent pocketpair infringed on though.
SlxxpGod
I think it’s stupid. Nintendo/Pokemon fanatics are nuts. I’m with Palworld on this one
A_Brave_Lion
Hope Nintendo wins, I guess no one can do anything but steal other people’s work now.
This lame game is a clear ripoff.
serenade1
Looks like PocketPair plans to fight back, saying they are an Indies company (by the way, just because you are a small company does not mean you can do anything you want, also partnering up with Sony and Aniplex goes beyond the realm of “Indies”)
Good. I was worried they would apologize and Nintendo would forgive, so this gives Nintendo the perfect chance to squish them flat.
captainhyrule1
Fuck nintendo. They’re just mad that they haven’t made a good pokemon game in decades. I hope they loose miserably
TheDarkCreed
Damn, the Hammer Bros don’t get any time off.
Numai_theOnlyOne
Is it really Nintendo and the Pokémon company? Nintendo is already a third of the company , but it sounds catchy if you use the third to make Nintendo and the Pokémon company out of it.
Nandor750
It was fun Nintendo/pokemon. Fuck you
GigglingLots
Monster rancher is gonna sue Pokémon then?
CULT-LEWD
welp…time to boycot nintendo
Vaxion
Instead of suing then why not just buy them or partner with them to make future pokemon games and get rid of GameFreak which has a big track record of delivering absolute nonsense without any accountability. Shows a lot about Nintendo’s priorities and what they actually care about.
NMPA1
Nintendo is going to lose. You can’t own the concept of catching creatures with a ball.
VicisZan
I’ll never buy another Nintendo product as long as they keep this shit up.
BeastKeeper28
“Why are we being sued, Nintendo?”
Nintendo: *japanese crickets*
WolfWomb
And Valve for distributing it.
Lenant_T
fuck nintendo bro, im skiping their shit, they suck so much
elsa_icywind
after hearing from other lawyers who went over the game with a fine tooth comb i doubt nintendo has any leg to stand on here. you can’t own mechanics to a game nor can you own any one genre of a game. plus the pals look nothing like the pokemon which you cant patent an art style so theres that too. i am very curious as to what nintendo thinks is patent infringement and i hope ti the gods the case is thrown out and laughed out of the court room. when palworld wins nintendo is gonna look 100 times worse for going after them. imo nintendo should focus on making better pokemon games instead of suing a company they have no leg to stand on with suing. i believe several professiona lawyers on youtube went over palworld and patent stuff and even said nintendo has no leg to stand on as well. if nintendo is jealous of palworld maybe idk put their games on pc so they are better than what they are now. this suing baffles me and i really hope it gets laughed out of the courtroom
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That took ages. I believed they were clear.
Patenting instead of copyright is intriguing.
Life has three certainties.
Death, taxes, Nintendo lawsuit
There’s already a post about this
I mean it’s not a surprise when their designs are Chinese knockoffs of Pokemon. Pal world always looked like one of those Chinese mobile games you get ads for that straight up use actual pokemon.
I’m honestly surprised it took this long. There’s SO much just in the initial launch trailer that’s clearly just bits and pieces of Pokemon models mashed together into new ones like that PokeFuse app that uses the sprites.
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Lawsuit seems totally winnable tbh. Court should stipulate that any damages awarded must be reinvested in making Pokémon games look they were developed within the last two decades.
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Even though it was mentioned earlier it is worth stating again this is a patent lawsuit. As much as they suck they are legitimate and happen all the time. Look at the various lawsuits Microsoft, Apple and Google have been a part of. Even though the designs may have caught Nintendo’s attention that’s not why Pocketpair is being sued.
hope they lose
Here’s my question: what is the patent or patents they are going for specifically?
And even if they did, I think worst case scenario is Palworld is taken down for a while so they can overhaul whatever it is if its minor, which I’m kind of thinking it is at present. Or they’d just be slapped with fines and move on, I have zero clue on how Japanese copyright/patent law works, but I do know its far more strict.
The only thing I’m not clear on is what damages Nintendo is filing for? I’m probably missing the obvious, but from my understanding, there shouldn’t be? Palworld is on systems that have no affiliation with Nintendo, so I can’t imagine it would be lost profits, right?
Nintendo: “These are some clean ass boots from this thread.”
What’s the thing they are suing for I know it’s a patent thing which I think means a game mechanic but there hasn’t been much information on it. Does anyone know??
And nothing of value was lost
Hey, game designer here. Don’t get me wrong, Pocketpair is known to just make blatant “ripoff” games with their own twists to profit off of other games popularity. Thats pretty low.
BUT patenting gameplay and then suing over gameplay is insane. Not even worth typing out an “argument” to reason why that is. I’m surprised so many comments on here are completely absolving Nintendo in this. The industry is terrible right now and things like this only slow the industry down and make the feature look even bleaker.
‘Bout time
For anyone who’s interested, [here’s](https://youtu.be/cbH9-lzx4LY?feature=shared) a good video explaining how the Japanese patent system works in the video game industry and what happened the last time Nintendo sued a company over patent issues.
One thing we should remember is that while Nintendo is infamous for a lot of lawsuits or strikes, **copyright law** is a different manner from **patent law**. In the case of patent law, the instances which they went to court over this is actually quite rare.
I’m suspecting that in contrast to the usual opinions I’ve seen in Reddit about why Nintendo took action (the ball-catching mechanic patent), PocketPair made a major blunder, or in worst cases, tried to be a shark themselves regarding patent issues that negotiations were out of the window.
The timing is interesting, maybe they also waited for playerbase to die down so immediate backlash would be smaller? A full year to gather evidence on patent infringement just seems high.
Curious what patent pocketpair infringed on though.
I think it’s stupid. Nintendo/Pokemon fanatics are nuts. I’m with Palworld on this one
Hope Nintendo wins, I guess no one can do anything but steal other people’s work now.
This lame game is a clear ripoff.
Looks like PocketPair plans to fight back, saying they are an Indies company (by the way, just because you are a small company does not mean you can do anything you want, also partnering up with Sony and Aniplex goes beyond the realm of “Indies”)
Good. I was worried they would apologize and Nintendo would forgive, so this gives Nintendo the perfect chance to squish them flat.
Fuck nintendo. They’re just mad that they haven’t made a good pokemon game in decades. I hope they loose miserably
Damn, the Hammer Bros don’t get any time off.
Is it really Nintendo and the Pokémon company? Nintendo is already a third of the company , but it sounds catchy if you use the third to make Nintendo and the Pokémon company out of it.
It was fun Nintendo/pokemon. Fuck you
Monster rancher is gonna sue Pokémon then?
welp…time to boycot nintendo
Instead of suing then why not just buy them or partner with them to make future pokemon games and get rid of GameFreak which has a big track record of delivering absolute nonsense without any accountability. Shows a lot about Nintendo’s priorities and what they actually care about.
Nintendo is going to lose. You can’t own the concept of catching creatures with a ball.
I’ll never buy another Nintendo product as long as they keep this shit up.
“Why are we being sued, Nintendo?”
Nintendo: *japanese crickets*
And Valve for distributing it.
fuck nintendo bro, im skiping their shit, they suck so much
after hearing from other lawyers who went over the game with a fine tooth comb i doubt nintendo has any leg to stand on here. you can’t own mechanics to a game nor can you own any one genre of a game. plus the pals look nothing like the pokemon which you cant patent an art style so theres that too. i am very curious as to what nintendo thinks is patent infringement and i hope ti the gods the case is thrown out and laughed out of the court room. when palworld wins nintendo is gonna look 100 times worse for going after them. imo nintendo should focus on making better pokemon games instead of suing a company they have no leg to stand on with suing. i believe several professiona lawyers on youtube went over palworld and patent stuff and even said nintendo has no leg to stand on as well. if nintendo is jealous of palworld maybe idk put their games on pc so they are better than what they are now. this suing baffles me and i really hope it gets laughed out of the courtroom