“I think this will end bad for Pocketpair”: Analyst says Nintendo’s “feared” legal team wouldn’t sue Palworld unless it was confident of victory
“I think this will end bad for Pocketpair”: Analyst says Nintendo’s “feared” legal team wouldn’t sue Palworld unless it was confident of victory
by LodossDX
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ertaboy356b
There’s a high chance they will settle this.
Careless-Freedom6468
I hope it doesn’t kill the company, even if they Cleary took heavy inspiration from Pokémon the game is different enough. And patenting a video game mechanic is kinda stupid.
I know the legal team has nothing to do with the Pokémon team and game freak. But have they not figured out if they actually put effort into a good looking good quality open world Pokémon.
That shit would sell 50 million plus, them selling 20 million plus on dogshit games doesn’t help though.
LilSwampGod
Pretty lame to patent video game mechanics, but also it’s also wild to say that Pocketpair did nothing wrong with how many Pals look identical to Pokemon. I’m looking at you Lucar- I mean “Anubis.”
NicoleMay316
The fact that they held back for MONTHS, just goes to show they know what they’re doing.
My guess based on this being a patent infringement lawsuit, not copyright, is that Nintendo is gonna try to make a claim that based on the precedence set by PacMan vs KC Munchkin, where PacMan won the exclusive rights to the “Maze Chase” genre of gaming.
If that same precedence pays off, then yeah. Pokemon clones are a no go. Just the fact we call Palworld a Pokemon clone, or Pokemon with Breath of the Wild and Guns, could be an issue the courts will side with Nintendo on.
Now, maybe, MAYBE we get the good timeline and this precedence is reversed. But I don’t see it happening. Nintendo is gonna Nintendo all over the court room.
Clean_Perception_235
How’s the game? Looking to buy it soon on my xbox.
turbo_fried_chicken
I’d better hurry up and buy this
Yerm_Terragon
100% certain this works out in Nintendo’s favor.
90% certain that no matter what happens, Palworld will continue to exist.
testedonsheep
Nintendo’s lawyers waited 9 months to make a move. They are out for blood.
sidv81
This may be true, but having played Palworld it doesn’t play anything like Pokemon. Assuming Nintendo does win, all it means is that patent law in Japan is broken beyond any sort of realistic common sense. That’s not something we should be celebrating.
Now if Nintendo were going after, say, Nexomon, that’s a slam dunk infringement case that DOES make sense.
Oaktree7200
Impossible; Reddit told me Nintendo has no chance
Cactusfan86
Obviously this is just spitballing, but I suspect Nintendo was rather furious about copycatting the designs but they didn’t like their chances of winning a copyright suit so they went hunting for a patent suit. Would explain why it took so long for the lawsuit to happen. So while people keep saying ‘they aren’t suing them for the designs’, I certainly think that’s the motivating factor. If pals looked nothing like pokemon I highly doubt Nintendo is suing. Really curious what bullcrap patent violation they think they found though
Edit: realized palworld came out more recently than I realized so it really didn’t take ‘long’ by legal standards.
CamF90
I mean obviously they were gonna sue, the entire UI inventory system is literally a copy/paste of the Legends Arceus game.
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Ruby_Rose_Swift
The ammonunt of anti Nintendo people who dont understand the law is baffling yet same group of people would defend sony besides all horrible things they Done
TKA12
people who arent lawyers need to stop this shitty interchange of “it took x months so its obviously srs/not founded” none of you are lawyers, this shit can happen in a day or a decade so shutup
Class_444_SWR
There’s a good reason why it took so long, they absolutely spent as long as necessary to ensure they could win
Flying_Saucer_Attack
Fuck Nintendo
PMC-I3181OS387l5
PocketPair copied Pokémon’s Pokéball concept, which was patented by Nintendo, and they outright admitted that they avoided to create something new.
“I always think: **To make new things is very hard**.
“In game development, of course, sometimes we have to do it, but, as much as possible, **I try to avoid creating new things**.”
As much as you guys want Nintendo to stop suing devs, or losing, maybe you should turn your attention to those indie devs and creators who are creatively dried up and try to pass plagiarism as “art”.
SSO_Sparky16
I honestly hope they (nintendo) loose because that patent they are trying to get passed sets a dangerous president for future creature capture games. They only filed it last year.
Ok_You3260
Fuck Nintendo
_ILP_
As a gamer, I thought “eh, I’ll try Palworld someday” So this may not come huh?
Myhtological
I’m sure oalworld lawyers will use all the pokemon clowns on app stores that Nintendo doesn’t go after in their counter argument
sldsapnuawpuas
I’m legitimately confused. How is Palworld the same as Pokemon? I see some similarities but that’s about it. By this logic ID Software should sue every studio that’s made an FPS. Honestly can someone explain to me what I’m not getting?
Nyxtia
/r/PatentMadness
JuanRpiano
There’s no such thing as “holding up to a confident victory” in the world of law. It’s all maleable and subject to change, anyone that has ever been involved in Law knows it’s a dirty world.
MillieMuffins
Palworld: copies pokemon designs, with some looking almost identical to Pokemon creatures
Nintendo: Nuh-uh
Palworld: _surprised Pikachu_
AIHawk_Founder
Nintendo’s lawyers must have a “catch ’em all” strategy, but they forgot that innovation is the real Pokémon Master move! 🎮
RyanandRoxy
Didn’t Pocket Pair already say they were making waaaaaay too much money for their small team. Pretty sure they’ll be able to afford a loss.
getbackjoe94
This whole situation has just confirmed to me that Reddit users are fucking insufferable when they work themselves up by imagining details to a legal case while not being lawyers themselves.
Zuldak
So per this article, the non lawyer analyst says the nintendo lawyers are scary.
The link at the bottom of the article to an actual lawyer says the suit looks like a huge reach.
Elizabeth_Faddy
They should have seen this coming from a mile away.
Hai_im_Kev
I’m guessing Nintendo’s tactic is to continually chew Pocketpair’s cash in court battles till they go under…
Wrong_Revolution_679
You’re telling me the company that took 8 months before filing a lawsuit to collect evidence, data, and many other pieces of information to help with their case is very confident that they will likely win……… I would never have guessed that
No-Section-4385
For people wondering it’s the 3 shake before they are either captured or escaped that is being sued for I am also sure they are going to try for other parts of the process but that is the main part of it. That part of Pokemon is still patent by Nintendo.
Why did they decide now was the time to do it?
Well hear say they tried to step on their turf and they acted.. Supposedly palworld was going to do a booth at the next Japanese convention with merchandise and other things and nintendo did not like that one bit.
TNTEGames
Oh well. Don’t steal other people’s ideas. Think of your own.
WhiskeyRadio
In the grand scheme of things Pal World doesn’t really share much with Pokemon in terms of how it plays but the designs sure as hell are ‘inspired’ to say the least.
Nintendo doesn’t sue to lose either so this game is cooked unless they are able to retool it in a way that Nintendo deems acceptable. They’ve also already made quite a bit on the game at this point.
Rhymelikedocsuess
I remember when palworld came out and people screeched online that they wouldn’t get sued even tho it was pretty obvious they would lol
ConsiderationKind220
…that’s the same standard ***everyone*** has for filing a lawsuit: confidence in victory.
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There’s a high chance they will settle this.
I hope it doesn’t kill the company, even if they Cleary took heavy inspiration from Pokémon the game is different enough. And patenting a video game mechanic is kinda stupid.
I know the legal team has nothing to do with the Pokémon team and game freak. But have they not figured out if they actually put effort into a good looking good quality open world Pokémon.
That shit would sell 50 million plus, them selling 20 million plus on dogshit games doesn’t help though.
Pretty lame to patent video game mechanics, but also it’s also wild to say that Pocketpair did nothing wrong with how many Pals look identical to Pokemon. I’m looking at you Lucar- I mean “Anubis.”
The fact that they held back for MONTHS, just goes to show they know what they’re doing.
My guess based on this being a patent infringement lawsuit, not copyright, is that Nintendo is gonna try to make a claim that based on the precedence set by PacMan vs KC Munchkin, where PacMan won the exclusive rights to the “Maze Chase” genre of gaming.
If that same precedence pays off, then yeah. Pokemon clones are a no go. Just the fact we call Palworld a Pokemon clone, or Pokemon with Breath of the Wild and Guns, could be an issue the courts will side with Nintendo on.
Now, maybe, MAYBE we get the good timeline and this precedence is reversed. But I don’t see it happening. Nintendo is gonna Nintendo all over the court room.
How’s the game? Looking to buy it soon on my xbox.
I’d better hurry up and buy this
100% certain this works out in Nintendo’s favor.
90% certain that no matter what happens, Palworld will continue to exist.
Nintendo’s lawyers waited 9 months to make a move. They are out for blood.
This may be true, but having played Palworld it doesn’t play anything like Pokemon. Assuming Nintendo does win, all it means is that patent law in Japan is broken beyond any sort of realistic common sense. That’s not something we should be celebrating.
Now if Nintendo were going after, say, Nexomon, that’s a slam dunk infringement case that DOES make sense.
Impossible; Reddit told me Nintendo has no chance
Obviously this is just spitballing, but I suspect Nintendo was rather furious about copycatting the designs but they didn’t like their chances of winning a copyright suit so they went hunting for a patent suit. Would explain why it took so long for the lawsuit to happen. So while people keep saying ‘they aren’t suing them for the designs’, I certainly think that’s the motivating factor. If pals looked nothing like pokemon I highly doubt Nintendo is suing. Really curious what bullcrap patent violation they think they found though
Edit: realized palworld came out more recently than I realized so it really didn’t take ‘long’ by legal standards.
I mean obviously they were gonna sue, the entire UI inventory system is literally a copy/paste of the Legends Arceus game.
[deleted]
The ammonunt of anti Nintendo people who dont understand the law is baffling yet same group of people would defend sony besides all horrible things they Done
people who arent lawyers need to stop this shitty interchange of “it took x months so its obviously srs/not founded” none of you are lawyers, this shit can happen in a day or a decade so shutup
There’s a good reason why it took so long, they absolutely spent as long as necessary to ensure they could win
Fuck Nintendo
PocketPair copied Pokémon’s Pokéball concept, which was patented by Nintendo, and they outright admitted that they avoided to create something new.
>[https://www.gamefile.news/p/palworld-pocketpair-takuro-mizobe-interview](https://www.gamefile.news/p/palworld-pocketpair-takuro-mizobe-interview)
“I always think: **To make new things is very hard**.
“In game development, of course, sometimes we have to do it, but, as much as possible, **I try to avoid creating new things**.”
As much as you guys want Nintendo to stop suing devs, or losing, maybe you should turn your attention to those indie devs and creators who are creatively dried up and try to pass plagiarism as “art”.
I honestly hope they (nintendo) loose because that patent they are trying to get passed sets a dangerous president for future creature capture games. They only filed it last year.
Fuck Nintendo
As a gamer, I thought “eh, I’ll try Palworld someday” So this may not come huh?
I’m sure oalworld lawyers will use all the pokemon clowns on app stores that Nintendo doesn’t go after in their counter argument
I’m legitimately confused. How is Palworld the same as Pokemon? I see some similarities but that’s about it. By this logic ID Software should sue every studio that’s made an FPS. Honestly can someone explain to me what I’m not getting?
/r/PatentMadness
There’s no such thing as “holding up to a confident victory” in the world of law. It’s all maleable and subject to change, anyone that has ever been involved in Law knows it’s a dirty world.
Palworld: copies pokemon designs, with some looking almost identical to Pokemon creatures
Nintendo: Nuh-uh
Palworld: _surprised Pikachu_
Nintendo’s lawyers must have a “catch ’em all” strategy, but they forgot that innovation is the real Pokémon Master move! 🎮
Didn’t Pocket Pair already say they were making waaaaaay too much money for their small team. Pretty sure they’ll be able to afford a loss.
This whole situation has just confirmed to me that Reddit users are fucking insufferable when they work themselves up by imagining details to a legal case while not being lawyers themselves.
So per this article, the non lawyer analyst says the nintendo lawyers are scary.
The link at the bottom of the article to an actual lawyer says the suit looks like a huge reach.
They should have seen this coming from a mile away.
I’m guessing Nintendo’s tactic is to continually chew Pocketpair’s cash in court battles till they go under…
You’re telling me the company that took 8 months before filing a lawsuit to collect evidence, data, and many other pieces of information to help with their case is very confident that they will likely win……… I would never have guessed that
For people wondering it’s the 3 shake before they are either captured or escaped that is being sued for I am also sure they are going to try for other parts of the process but that is the main part of it. That part of Pokemon is still patent by Nintendo.
Why did they decide now was the time to do it?
Well hear say they tried to step on their turf and they acted.. Supposedly palworld was going to do a booth at the next Japanese convention with merchandise and other things and nintendo did not like that one bit.
Oh well. Don’t steal other people’s ideas. Think of your own.
In the grand scheme of things Pal World doesn’t really share much with Pokemon in terms of how it plays but the designs sure as hell are ‘inspired’ to say the least.
Nintendo doesn’t sue to lose either so this game is cooked unless they are able to retool it in a way that Nintendo deems acceptable. They’ve also already made quite a bit on the game at this point.
I remember when palworld came out and people screeched online that they wouldn’t get sued even tho it was pretty obvious they would lol
…that’s the same standard ***everyone*** has for filing a lawsuit: confidence in victory.
This is just fear mongering BS.
Sincerely,
– A lawyer.