Nintendo & Pokémon Company Reportedly Had A Difficult And Adversarial Relationship: “there Were Really A Lot Of Butting Heads Moments”
Nintendo & Pokémon Company Reportedly Had A Difficult And Adversarial Relationship: “there Were Really A Lot Of Butting Heads Moments”
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EtheusRook
Because Nintendo has quality standards to uphold and TPC does not.
echoess84
Gotta Solve Them* All
(*their problems )
insertusernamehere51
Guys, please read the article; they’re talking about the US branches of both companies specifically having disagreements about marketing
nothing to do with game development
Edit: People in the replies literally still commenting that its about game development
Infinite_Treacle
In the article, it has nothing to do with the quality of the Pokemon games. Just disagreements about the specifics of promo materials.
Sad-Injury-4052
Pokemon is the biggest IP in entertainment history. Nintendo only owns 1/3 of it. Both Gamefreak and Creatures Inc 9nly have Pokemon and they want to make as much content possible to make it more profitable while Nintendo would prefer for Pokemon to enter in their schedule.
StevynTheHero
Waiting for this comments section to fill up with assumptions instead of information.
God bless the internet!
ContinuumGuy
> Another strange disagreement involved ice sculptures of Pokémon. The Pokémon Company was not happy with the details of the sculptures, such as one Pokémon’s toenail being the wrong size. Because of this, they demanded the sculptures be destroyed, which upset the Nintendo team.
Toenails are serious business.
naynaythewonderhorse
Uh.
What a strangely worded article title.
Nintendo is 1/3rd of the Pokemon Company. They aren’t different entities. Looking through the comments, the amount of people who don’t seem to understand it is fairly high. Nintendo publishes the games, and owns all of the trademarks.
GameFreak is also 1/3rd of the Pokemon Company. They actually do the game development on the main series titles.
The other 3rd is Creatures Inc. they handle a lot of stuff with spin-offs and merchandising. (They’re kind of the more quiet ones in the 3-way relationship.)
The issues seem to stem from Nintendo vs. Creatures more than GameFreak here, but I don’t think there was much going on in regards to GameFreak actually having anything to do with this.
Financial_Exit_7710
Is rhat reæ
ArcanaRobin
Unsurprisingly, people aren’t reading the article and just using the headline to cook up some fanfiction about how Nintendo supposedly feels about Game Freak
zenverak
Most companies will at some point who work together
pgtl_10
I think people fail to realize that Pokemon isn’t meant to be Zelda, Mario, or Final Fantasy. Online communities think Pokemon needs drastic changes but Nintendo sees Pokemon appealing to everyone from kids to diehard fans. Drastic changes could alienate their consumers.
This is a case of online communities giving a different impression than actual sales.
Metroid is like that. Online communities love Metroid and make the game seem top tier but Donkey Kong Country Returns outsold the Prime Trilogy and Wario games outsold all 2D until Dread.
Hot_Swimming_425
This is why HAL is the goat and pokemon company is trash
Alanmurilo22
I’m sure the pokémon company would love to not have Nintendo around. They are releasing more games on mobile these days than on console, after all.
Torracattos
As many have pointed out, this is about marketing, not games quality. Its honestly disappointing to hear this as someone who has wished Pokemon had more of a presence in Nintendo Directs lately. Between 2017 and 2020, Pokemon had a pretty regular presence in Directs, but in the last 5 years, its been very rare, with the biggest one being SV DLC opening the June 2023 Direct.
The_real_bandito
> Even like The Pokémon Company in Japan, when you would get a glimpse of them, they seemed okay, but it was really the US teams that were very [*hits fists together], and there were really a lot of butting heads moments.” Kit said.
Butting heads over the length of a nail of a Pokemon or the way Reggie pronounced the work Pokemon lol.
LylatInvader
Makes a lot of sense, Japanese and American marketing are very different beasts. Its partly why sega lost its hold in the console market. You can definitely see how crazy pokemon’s marketing can be when you consider every couple of gens the vibe of the marketing changed heavily. You get one gen thats all about this being a whole new era of pokemon to the next being, i bet you foundly remember pokemania right.
Stardust_Specter
People in the comments saying the games don’t matter anymore, but the games are literally everything. Even if they’re not the best selling aspect of Pokémon as a franchise, it would not be where it is today without the games.
And look at the community right now literally what the majority of us care about is the upcoming Pokémon legends za game. Games may not bring in the most money but they sure as heck open the door for new plushies, shows, and more
serenade1
It’s a good thing that they eventually got official Western sources to stop saying “Pokiman”, that’s for sure.
I remember Wolfe? talking about how pronouncing like that would get you into big troubles
bisforbenis
I feel like any time companies have a relationship like Nintendo and Pokémon, where Pokémon is this huge company with an exclusivity deal with games for their games, it creates a shared ownership situation where both companies have their own unique interests as well as some shared interests, it’s bound to get contentious at times
Also, I see the comments about it not mentioning quality of the games, which is true, but also it doesn’t mean there aren’t disagreements on that. It’s just that if those types of disagreements exist, they’d never be made public. Both sides lose if there existed private disagreements over game quality and those disagreements became public knowledge
Jakeremix
This subreddit needs to ban articles that just restate what Kit and Krysta say on their podcast.
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Because Nintendo has quality standards to uphold and TPC does not.
Gotta Solve Them* All
(*their problems )
Guys, please read the article; they’re talking about the US branches of both companies specifically having disagreements about marketing
nothing to do with game development
Edit: People in the replies literally still commenting that its about game development
In the article, it has nothing to do with the quality of the Pokemon games. Just disagreements about the specifics of promo materials.
Pokemon is the biggest IP in entertainment history. Nintendo only owns 1/3 of it. Both Gamefreak and Creatures Inc 9nly have Pokemon and they want to make as much content possible to make it more profitable while Nintendo would prefer for Pokemon to enter in their schedule.
Waiting for this comments section to fill up with assumptions instead of information.
God bless the internet!
> Another strange disagreement involved ice sculptures of Pokémon. The Pokémon Company was not happy with the details of the sculptures, such as one Pokémon’s toenail being the wrong size. Because of this, they demanded the sculptures be destroyed, which upset the Nintendo team.
Toenails are serious business.
Uh.
What a strangely worded article title.
Nintendo is 1/3rd of the Pokemon Company. They aren’t different entities. Looking through the comments, the amount of people who don’t seem to understand it is fairly high. Nintendo publishes the games, and owns all of the trademarks.
GameFreak is also 1/3rd of the Pokemon Company. They actually do the game development on the main series titles.
The other 3rd is Creatures Inc. they handle a lot of stuff with spin-offs and merchandising. (They’re kind of the more quiet ones in the 3-way relationship.)
The issues seem to stem from Nintendo vs. Creatures more than GameFreak here, but I don’t think there was much going on in regards to GameFreak actually having anything to do with this.
Is rhat reæ
Unsurprisingly, people aren’t reading the article and just using the headline to cook up some fanfiction about how Nintendo supposedly feels about Game Freak
Most companies will at some point who work together
I think people fail to realize that Pokemon isn’t meant to be Zelda, Mario, or Final Fantasy. Online communities think Pokemon needs drastic changes but Nintendo sees Pokemon appealing to everyone from kids to diehard fans. Drastic changes could alienate their consumers.
This is a case of online communities giving a different impression than actual sales.
Metroid is like that. Online communities love Metroid and make the game seem top tier but Donkey Kong Country Returns outsold the Prime Trilogy and Wario games outsold all 2D until Dread.
This is why HAL is the goat and pokemon company is trash
I’m sure the pokémon company would love to not have Nintendo around. They are releasing more games on mobile these days than on console, after all.
As many have pointed out, this is about marketing, not games quality. Its honestly disappointing to hear this as someone who has wished Pokemon had more of a presence in Nintendo Directs lately. Between 2017 and 2020, Pokemon had a pretty regular presence in Directs, but in the last 5 years, its been very rare, with the biggest one being SV DLC opening the June 2023 Direct.
> Even like The Pokémon Company in Japan, when you would get a glimpse of them, they seemed okay, but it was really the US teams that were very [*hits fists together], and there were really a lot of butting heads moments.” Kit said.
Butting heads over the length of a nail of a Pokemon or the way Reggie pronounced the work Pokemon lol.
Makes a lot of sense, Japanese and American marketing are very different beasts. Its partly why sega lost its hold in the console market. You can definitely see how crazy pokemon’s marketing can be when you consider every couple of gens the vibe of the marketing changed heavily. You get one gen thats all about this being a whole new era of pokemon to the next being, i bet you foundly remember pokemania right.
People in the comments saying the games don’t matter anymore, but the games are literally everything. Even if they’re not the best selling aspect of Pokémon as a franchise, it would not be where it is today without the games.
And look at the community right now literally what the majority of us care about is the upcoming Pokémon legends za game. Games may not bring in the most money but they sure as heck open the door for new plushies, shows, and more
It’s a good thing that they eventually got official Western sources to stop saying “Pokiman”, that’s for sure.
I remember Wolfe? talking about how pronouncing like that would get you into big troubles
I feel like any time companies have a relationship like Nintendo and Pokémon, where Pokémon is this huge company with an exclusivity deal with games for their games, it creates a shared ownership situation where both companies have their own unique interests as well as some shared interests, it’s bound to get contentious at times
Also, I see the comments about it not mentioning quality of the games, which is true, but also it doesn’t mean there aren’t disagreements on that. It’s just that if those types of disagreements exist, they’d never be made public. Both sides lose if there existed private disagreements over game quality and those disagreements became public knowledge
This subreddit needs to ban articles that just restate what Kit and Krysta say on their podcast.