So their are many pokémon whom only have one ability, which doesn’t make sense for many of them and worse said ability can tend to be pretty much useless or actively detrimental. So i wanted to see what other abilities people would’ve given, starting here with Archen & Archeops.
I have never understood why GF decided to give this line defeatist. It is not overpowered, and not even having a hidden ability when they were introduced at the same time feels criminal. So here are my picks for a second ability or HA:
\- Hustle(since it’s said both pokémon can run quickly on the ground, even when they can fly).
\- Rock head(it mixes well with it knowing many recoil moves like brave bird, head smash & double edge).
\- Simple(a reference & joke of how since it’s the first bird it is technically the most simple one, aka a prototype).
by Flygonizer-Obsidian
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archeops with rock head would have given an entire generation ptsd. defeatist sucks but let’s not pretend it wouldnt be busted with an actual good ability
Archeops was broken as hell. It just doesn’t look that special compared to powercreep.
Look at it’s stats, by the time it SHOULD evolve, it’s like right before twist mountain or in it (after the 6th gym)…and if you teach this thing acrobatics, it will 100% beat anything in the game unless it’s a steel, electiric, or rock mon. And even then it has coverage for that in bulldoze.
https://preview.redd.it/pa9lsai7h3hg1.png?width=805&format=png&auto=webp&s=2a83bd059d3a80119662c0389f3f9efef6de054b
ROCK HEAD! ROCK HEAD! ROCK HEAD!
Early Bird.
Give Slaking Klutz. Still an Ability that nerfs its viability somewhat, but nowhere near as much as Truant does. And with power creep, Slaking wouldn’t even come close to being OP in the current climate even if it got an almost null Ability like Pressure.
The whole point of Archen’s line is that they have great stats, but a terrible ability. (And yes, this thing’s stats are great, even if they may not always seem like it. Archeops has a BST only 3 points away from Flutter Mane.) As such, I think we should stick with the theme, and have its ability replaced with another detrimental one. But since its stats aren’t as OP as the other pokemon with this gimmick, Slow Start and Truant are way to debilitating.
Therefore, I think we should give it the ability Klutz. Losing the ability to use an item in exchange for ensuring it remains at full power no matter its HP feels to me like a clear upgrade, without becoming overpowered, while also keeping to the “great stats, terrible ability” theme the line has going for it.
If we’re not counting HA’s then give my boi Mothim Gale Wings, Filter, or even Compound Eyes and access to moves like Hurricane and Sleep Powder! It seriously needs some kind of buff! Oher good abilities for it would be Sap Sipper, Adaptability, Shed Skin, Shield Dust, Honey Gather, Wind Rider, Mimicry, Gale Wings, Filter, etc. Any of these would fit the theme of the evo line!
Though for a bit more of an OP buff, give Mismagius Magic Bounce, Magician, or Magic Guard. Not sure why it doesn’t already have any of these tbh.
Overbaked, ik it’s cooked but yummy KFC
Regenerator for Mega-Audino
For slaking, instead of truant doing nothing, I’d force it to use slack off every other turn instead.
I’d like it if they had half stats and their ability doubled them above half health, functionally the same but feels better, although skill swap strats would be easy to make overpowered
I want some obscene broken shit, gimme as one iron fist and unseen fist on Pangoro, I want it to be good so badly
Flygon should probably have sand stream
Honestly I think that Unburden would be fun. The dex says that it has weak muscles and needs to gain a lot of speed to take off so my lore behind Archeops getting Unburden is that the nutrients from the berry that Archeops consumes strengthens its muscles and allows it to go faster.
Big Pecks – for the pun.
Adaptability. It’s the first bird, a dinosaur adapted for flight.
I know its barely a pokemon, but I feel like it would be cool if Unknown had a signature hidden ability. Something like Psychic surge, or maybe a unique terrain that inverts the type charts.
I also think Chimeco should have a sound based ability besides only friggin having levitate
Truant
Regigigas now gets the move Explosion as an ability
I think Hustle feels right for the spirit of the Pokémon being fairly stubborn
Slow start
Slow Start because I want everybody to suffer
Power of Alchemy Mismagius
Alolan Raichu should get levitate cus it’s literally floating.
Cherrim should get Chlorophyll or Drought.
Gollisopod should get Battle Armor or something. I like the idea of it keeping it’s “It may look tougher, but it’s the same scaredy cat deep down” thing in theory more than in practice. If we really wanna keep it, Run Away or Rattled would work better.
Dhelmise should get an ability like Regenerator or Stalwart. Steelworker is interesting but I don’t think it’s interesting enough that it should be the only ability for a pokemon.
Not the question you want answered but I always thought Defeatist would make a really interesting hidden ability for Slaking or Regigigas.
The line has Defeatist largely because of it’s incredibly high attack stat, being one of the highest non-mega, non legendary Pokemon in series history. So you want an ability that’s still going to hinder it, or it’s going to be busted.
In that spirit, I’d probably give it Hustle since I think the lower accuracy would be a good trade off, or Reckless because of how many recoil moves it gets access to making it a double edged sword, where it can basically sweep without setup, just not for very long.
I actually came up with a custom Ability idea for Archen a while back:
**Crash Landing: whenever you use a Flying-Type move, the power is increased but it inflicts recoil damage.**
The idea being that Archen’s attempts at flying are less “stooping hawk” and more “feathery kamikaze.”
I want there to be a cup of coffee that gives Regigigas Insomnia when it holds it
archeops having one ability makes sense, because otherwise it would kinda just be fairly busted
what other mons have a 140 attack (or special attack) stat with speed at 110 or above? its all megas, or something stupid like deoxys/mewtwo
Give it an ability that allows it to be hit by ground type moves and that’s it. Opposite of levitate.
I played Inclement Emerald a long time ago and in that game they gave Archeops Klutz, perfect option imo because it allows him to work without defeatist but stops him from using flying gem acrobatics to balance it out
they gave it defeatest cus its stats were insane for gen5 not as much powercreep, also insane movepool.
anyway i would give it tough claws (broken) or maybe sheer force (broken). not broken id go unnerve
I’ve said this before, but here it is: Wind Rider. I know that sounds strong, but hear me out. Archen and Archeops are known to be rather poor flyers and tend to glide more often than not. Since they’re just falling with style, why not give them Wind Rider, the ability explicitly about gliding?
He even gets Tailwind, so he could trigger his own ability, and having any other ability than Defeatist will guarantee that he sees VGC play, as well.
Flygon: Tinted Lens and Sand Stream
Flygon has just fallen behind *so much*, being overshadowed by Garchomp in pretty much every conceivable way. Just give it *something*.
Gale Wings
I already know I’m giving Eelektross wonder guard
Give it Unburden so the Gen 5 Flying Gem Acrobatics strat gets even stupider
Unrelated to Archen since everybody else already had some great ideas…
But Golisopod man… Sharpness, Drizzle, Regenerator, Intimidate, Rain Dish, Shell Armor, Speed Boost, Stamina, Swift Swim, Technician, Tough Claws, Water Bubble…
You can’t tell me they couldn’t come up with a decent HA for Golisopod. They did it on purpose. This shit is character assassination…