April Community Day Bellsproute was just announced. Evolve into Victreebell to get the fast move Magical Leaf. This video will go over how much stronger Shadow Victreebell gets in the Great League and Ultra League.
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This is probably not gonna be relevant over Venusaur I reckon
As long as I get to TM my already established shadow vic then I'll try this out.
In your matrix you have the 2 Shadow Vic and then a non Shadow with a Sludge Bomb moveset. For completeness a Shadow Sludge needs to be added to show its not only moveset dependent, but also shadow vs non shadow dependent. The sludge bomb shadow vs non shadow is 6 extra wins for non shadow and 3 extra losses.
Also your other point towards the end of the video – grass types and coverage. In the current meta there are non grass with grass coverage like Lickitung and Cresselia – and their grass coverage and bulk is actually what makes them stand out. Even Shadow Gallade with Leaf Blade outranks the best grass types in great league with grass coverage. Grass needs a buff.
Whims is a pokemon I've been running. Fairy Wind / Seed Bomb, Moonblast. Seed Bomb for waters, Moonblast for Dark/Dragons. Skarm walls it with fast move pressure.
I see this as a big problem for many players that keep looking for teams to used am they can not get anywhere!
4:20 2 shadow vic one regular vic in sims.
I'm definitely just gonna be out catching for the stardust. The whole meme of this community day is pretty funny… bellsprout's pokedex is #69 and the comm day is on 4/20 and is getting "magical leaf"
Your third one is not shadow!
Niantic is not only run by morons, they employ children, too. Pokémon #69 is getting “magical leaf” on 4-20. Pathetic.
The 69th pokemon in the pokedex is having a community day on 4/20 and it's learning the move *checks notes* "magical leaf" when it evolves
Ok, Niantic
So on April 20th we get a grass Pokemon that gets magical leaf. I get it now.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but what you said and what I saw means it losses flexibility. Harder losses, less strong wins, worse with shield disadvantage, except for in 2v1 shields, worse in all other scenarios.
Straight up buff for ultra league though.
I feel like magical leaf+ acid spray makes it a sim hero cause pvpoke will have the opponent shielding acid spray every time
Nice vid. Thank you for your breakdown. Grass really needs a buff.
They should’ve gave it close combat
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I don't think it's gonna be relevant in GL. With magical leaf is just "bad venusaur". If it'd got vine whip or poison jab it would've been more interesting.
Also, some simulations were skipped, for example RL shadow vic can beat gligar if you invest two shields (you only care about alignment in grasshole anyway)
Would be nice if they end up coding it to increase the shiny rate on the shadow sprout with the decoy grunts.
Fucking hell i didnt have the tms to remove frus on any of them because I’m not a shadow Vic kind of guy but i would like to try it out with magical leaf so it’s not as toxic
I’ve been using the current shadow Vic in the jungle cup as an opener… w- lanturn and Tentacruel…. It’s been doing pretty well around the 2150 Elo can be a challenge above that… talonflame openers are painful… because there’s literally no way you can’t straight switch, then the team doesn’t really have a legit safe swap.
May pay to switch Tentacruel for a Vigroth or something. However I do like the concept of the RL version better… it’s all well and good having more move flexibility… but when you’re as glassy as Victreebell… you’re using shields just to stay in the neutral fights to get to charged moves.
I can see it as a decent closer
Would be interested to explore if it's better than venusaur when it has magical leaf?